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D17 Diesel

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jddrawbar

01-10-2012 07:55:42




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A local D17 with the Buda diesel is for sale & the owner claims only 234 were built. I'm not a AC guy, but that doesn't seem right to me. Anybody have that info handy.....I would appreciate it. Thanks for your time.




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jddrawbar

01-10-2012 12:27:04




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 Re: D17 Diesel in reply to jddrawbar, 01-10-2012 07:55:42  
I looked on Tractor Data and found 84,914 total D17's made.....of that 12,284 were diesels. That seems more in line with what I suspected. Thanks for the help.



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DiyDave

01-10-2012 10:42:44




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 Re: D17 Diesel in reply to jddrawbar, 01-10-2012 07:55:42  
Figure I see, in Swinford's book, was 350 tractors with the 230, from 181341. Wording is a little subjective, could be taken to mean a couple different things. Those 350, mentioned in the book, were made in 1953. But from my experience, AC would often run the line setup, till they ran out of parts, for a particular line, then start up again, with the 262.



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DiyDave

01-10-2012 16:03:42




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 Re: D17 Diesel in reply to DiyDave, 01-10-2012 10:42:44  
Whoops, reread post! I was commenting on WD-45 diesel, not D-17, let me make that clear. I don't believe there were any 230 Budas, in a D-17, unless somebody has done some tinkerin!



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Tramway Guy

01-10-2012 12:47:18




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 Re: D17 Diesel in reply to DiyDave, 01-10-2012 10:42:44  
Except the D17 itself did not exist until 1957. The ones with the 230 Diesel were WD45's. I do not think they were available with the Diesel until later than 1953, maybe late 1954 or early 1955, about the same time Power steering became available.



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DiyDave

01-10-2012 16:13:55




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 Re: D17 Diesel in reply to Tramway Guy, 01-10-2012 12:47:18  
No, according to Swinfords book, all 350 230 Budas went into WD-45"s made in 1953. I think that there might be a few WD-45"s, with the 262, don"t know if they are original, or transplants, from a later D-17! Problem is, is that some dealers would hold onto inventory, that didn"t sell! we have a 1957 D-14, that was sold as new, in 1963, I believe!



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JMS/.MN

01-10-2012 13:41:30




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 Re: D17 Diesel in reply to Tramway Guy, 01-10-2012 12:47:18  
6509 WD45 diesels were built, starting October, 1954. Produced til 1957. 83,842 non-diesels were built.



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Tramway guy

01-10-2012 10:22:12




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 Re: D17 Diesel in reply to jddrawbar, 01-10-2012 07:55:42  
All D17 Diesels had Allis Chalmers D262 engines in them. Buda engines ceased being Budas when A-C bought Buda in the early '50s. Yes, the basic engine design descended from the earlier Buda design, but did not carry the Buda name.
There were several thousand diesels made.
Now if that engine had a Turbo engine on it from the factory, it would be one of a few D17 cotton picker tractors that had larger engines in them, and were very low in quantity produced.

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