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Mowing with an Allis C

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41c

09-17-2011 15:24:22




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Hi,
I've been playing around with a bushhog and need some advice. I've been mowing in 1st gear about half throttle in my yard before taking it to our land. When I try to stop, the mower pushes the tractor about 7-10 feet. Would the brakes be worn to the point of replacement or is this normal? I can disengage the pto, but takes forever for the mower blades to stop.

It has a homemade 3pt, no overrunning clutch, live hydraulics.

Thanks,
Larry

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steve(ill)

09-18-2011 07:35:49




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 Re: Mowing with an Allis C in reply to 41c, 09-17-2011 15:24:22  
when you push in the clutch you disengeage the motor from the transmission , no power INPUT. THe mower blades are spinning several hundered RPM and it takes a few seconds to slow them down. THE centrifugal force of the blades running, turns the PTO which is connected to the transmisssion and the mower deck actually drives the tractor forward the 10 feet you noticed. A clutch on the back will allow the mower end to spend, and the PTO shaft to stop turning........ post a picture of that WD45- C?

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41c

09-18-2011 08:11:52




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 Re: Mowing with an Allis C in reply to steve(ill), 09-18-2011 07:35:49  
It also is before the hydraulic pump and power steering. I can't take an updated picture because it's raining.



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41c

09-18-2011 08:09:07




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 Re: Mowing with an Allis C in reply to steve(ill), 09-18-2011 07:35:49  
third party image

This is an earlier photo. I was using the C radiator and was running hot. The radiator on it now is longer so I'm working on the grill and hood to fit better.



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old

09-17-2011 18:06:58




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 Re: Mowing with an Allis C in reply to 41c, 09-17-2011 15:24:22  
You need an ORC before you get your self hurt or some one else hurt. As for live hyds how is that set up since the C did not come that way from the factory??



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41c

09-17-2011 19:27:25




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 Re: Mowing with an Allis C in reply to old, 09-17-2011 18:06:58  
Thanks,

I will get a overrun clutch before I mow.

A pump is ran off the crank pulley for the hydraulics.



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old

09-17-2011 19:41:57




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 Re: Mowing with an Allis C in reply to 41c, 09-17-2011 19:27:25  
Belt drive like maybe a power steering pump or a shaft drive like used for a lot of loaders??



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41c

09-17-2011 19:44:44




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 Re: Mowing with an Allis C in reply to old, 09-17-2011 19:41:57  
it is belt driven



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old

09-17-2011 19:50:29




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 Re: Mowing with an Allis C in reply to 41c, 09-17-2011 19:44:44  
Ok maybe a power steering pump then. I have used one for hyds before on a Farmall B I had years ago. Worked real well and the cost was just right since it was just laying around in my shop



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41c

09-17-2011 20:02:08




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 Re: Mowing with an Allis C in reply to old, 09-17-2011 19:50:29  
Actually, it is an Eaton pump, belt driven of the crank. A three spool valve is from a JD 400 lawn tractor. I added a Jeep PS pump and gear box. The pump is belt driven off a two groove water pump pulley. It is a WD45 engine that was mounted on the C frame when the engine cracked. This is how I have the room for it.



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old

09-17-2011 20:49:24




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 Re: Mowing with an Allis C in reply to 41c, 09-17-2011 20:02:08  
WD45 engine on a C how in the world can you do that unless you made some sort of adapter plate since the C has no frame the engine is the frame on a C. Now if it is a WC yes the WD45 engine bolts right in



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41c

09-18-2011 04:40:27




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 Re: Mowing with an Allis C in reply to old, 09-17-2011 20:49:24  
I did have to make an 1/4 adaptor plate for clearence. I tapped a 1x2 steel bar for the lower engine bolt and secured it to the two C torque tube side bolt. Drilled holes for the upper bolt through where the engine flares out. I did make side rails for the front axle.



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old

09-18-2011 07:01:40




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 Re: Mowing with an Allis C in reply to 41c, 09-18-2011 04:40:27  
Well then see you do not really have a C but you have a WD45C sort of like my Farmall BA which is half B and half A. From the transmission forward it is a B and from there back an A so I call it my BA



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Dick L

09-17-2011 15:36:48




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 Re: Mowing with an Allis C in reply to 41c, 09-17-2011 15:24:22  
You need an over run clutch on your power take off ahead of the mowers power take off shaft. When running without one you just pop the tractor or the power take off unit out of gear and then wait for the mower to stop turning before putting it back in gear.



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