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WC - Starting w/ Ether ??

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Tom R-S

08-29-2011 10:14:24

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Drove the old gal in a parade yesterday and it ran great. Tried to start it after parking on the drive lter and she almost - but did not start.
This is a crank start only 1937, so I'm not sure it had a problem or I just didn't have the umph anymore.
Can I use some ether starting fluid to try to get her going?

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Will Herring

09-01-2011 04:38:10

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 Re: WC - Starting w/ Ether ?? in reply to dennis oconnor, 08-29-2011 10:14:24  
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My WD is this way. If I'm not going to use it for awhile, I always do this. She starts great every time afterwards, just gotta choke it. :D

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Paul from MI

08-30-2011 18:31:36

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 Re: WC - Starting w/ Ether ?? in reply to Tom R-S, 08-29-2011 10:14:24  
Never had any success with starting fluid on a gasoline engine. I have several hand crank tractors and good hot magnetos, clean carburetors, good valves, all of it properly adjusted will go a long ways to easy starting.

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Dick L

08-31-2011 06:47:07

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 Re: WC - Starting w/ Ether ?? in reply to Paul from MI, 08-30-2011 18:31:36  
Sorry about your luck but I have been doing it with my one B for at least eight years. I only start it once or twice a year since I quit using it to cultivate. It brings it to life.

I use it every time to start my Oliver 70. It probly needs a new gas line. I keep it running on starting fluid with short bursts until the gas flow keeps up with its needs. I hardly ever use the 70 outside anymore. Is sets in the drive isle out in my one warehouse and I have to move it now and then. Probly has sick gas in it as well.
I have used starting fluid several times to start and listen to tractors run that ran when parked that were kept in the dry. Even when the carburetor is removed you can start them with short bursts of spray and keep them running long enough to here any bad noises inside the engine if every thing else is working.

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08-30-2011 05:12:39

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 Re: WC - Starting w/ Ether ?? in reply to Tom R-S, 08-29-2011 10:14:24  
Our 38WC will always start right up cold but is a real pain to start if you shut it off and try to start it again hot or even warm. Quite by accident we discovered that it will start much easier warm if we shut the gas off and let it die. "fixed" a couple others with the same problem in the same manner, try it. Starting fluid is usualy of no help with a gas engine in my experiance.

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Dick L

08-29-2011 18:17:13

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 Re: WC - Starting w/ Ether ?? in reply to Tom R-S, 08-29-2011 10:14:24  
You most likely will not find ether on farm store shelves. It is starting fluid which I use on crank start engines that will not draw enough gas in for a easy start. Just use a short shot in the breather.

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08-29-2011 14:53:31

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 Re: WC - Starting w/ Ether ?? in reply to Tom R-S, 08-29-2011 10:14:24  
Was it still on the warm side??? Common problem with a hand start engine that if still warm they can be a good bit harder to start.

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Tom R-S

08-29-2011 18:24:59

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 Re: WC - Starting w/ Ether ?? in reply to old, 08-29-2011 14:53:31  
Yes - it was warm yet from the trip.
I've found that too that its easier to start when its cold. But, I think this is partially due to knowing that it needs to be choked when cold, as appossed to not knowing how much if any choke it needs when its warm.

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08-29-2011 19:25:49

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 Re: WC - Starting w/ Ether ?? in reply to Tom R-S, 08-29-2011 18:24:59  
Ya on any hand start tractor you need to know just how to do things and it also helps to know just how to hold your mouth and which leg to stand on and what words to say. Yep got a 1935 JD-B hand start and one day it starts easy then the next you pull it a mile then the next you pull if a foot and t starts

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08-29-2011 10:44:44

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 Re: WC - Starting w/ Ether ?? in reply to Tom R-S, 08-29-2011 10:14:24  
Use carburetor cleaner, that works best on gas engines.

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08-29-2011 10:43:15

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 Re: WC - Starting w/ Ether ?? in reply to Tom R-S, 08-29-2011 10:14:24  
I've used ether in a gas engine before and didn't have a whole lot of luck with it. That said I would think that if you value the integrity of your arms at all I would leave it well enough alone with a crank start tractor. Sam

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08-30-2011 18:55:25

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 Re: WC - Starting w/ Ether ?? in reply to tractorsam, 08-29-2011 10:43:15  
I finally found a use for WD-40..it is real good for use as Starting Fluid..especially in 2-Cycle engines like trimmers, etc...


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