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Getting ready to tear into final drives on a C

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atlarge54

04-30-2011 18:31:12




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I'm really expecting this to be a headache before it's over. The bolts that tighten the axle don't want to budge. I just adjusted the axle on my mowing C last month and didn't have a bit of trouble. Now I've got a C jacked up to work on finals and trans plus two final drives on a skid from a donor C and NONE of the bolts that hold the axle want to come loose. I broke a 6-point 1/2" drive socket using a breaker bar, my impact wrench (it might be a bit weak) won't loosen them. I'm begining to think maybe loctite was used on the bolts, I haven't tried heat yet.

Any tips on getting the brake drums off, since I don't have a long reach puller?

If I do get things apart ok are bearings and seals standard items that can be purchased at Motion Industries?

It seem these old tractors just make even simple jobs tough.

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Dick L

05-01-2011 05:02:16




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 Re: Getting ready to tear into final drives on a C in reply to atlarge54, 04-30-2011 18:31:12  
You will never break one of the studs in the final drive trying to remove them. I use a 3/4" drive breaker bar with a long pipe on the tuff ones. IMHO there is only one way to remove the pinion shaft to get the drums off and that is as shown in the picture below.

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atlarge54

05-01-2011 06:22:48




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 Re: Getting ready to tear into final drives on a C in reply to Dick L, 05-01-2011 05:02:16  
Dick L, when removing that way is the brake drum keyway an issue? What is the minimum tonnage press you might expect to do the job? I've been contemplating a press purchase for a while but never done so.



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Dick L

05-01-2011 07:50:04




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 Re: Getting ready to tear into final drives on a C in reply to atlarge54, 05-01-2011 06:22:48  
The key cuts a slot in the seal which you need to replace anyway. I am not sure but I think the gage read around 15 ton when it began to move.



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Ted in NE_OH

04-30-2011 19:33:04




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 Re: Getting ready to tear into final drives on a C in reply to atlarge54, 04-30-2011 18:31:12  
Impact wrench. Hope you don't break the bolts.



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Ted in NE-OH

04-30-2011 19:28:45




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 Re: Getting ready to tear into final drives on a C in reply to atlarge54, 04-30-2011 18:31:12  
All bearings and seals are standard off the shelf.



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chalmersbob(pa)

04-30-2011 19:14:50




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 Re: Getting ready to tear into final drives on a C in reply to atlarge54, 04-30-2011 18:31:12  
HEAT, HEAT, and more HEAT. You need the flame wrench. Bob



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Jim350

04-30-2011 20:25:37




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 Re: Getting ready to tear into final drives on a C in reply to chalmersbob(pa), 04-30-2011 19:14:50  
And you will learn alot of new swear words trying to get the drums off.
I can swear in three languages now.



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atlarge54

04-30-2011 20:36:15




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 Re: Getting ready to tear into final drives on a C in reply to Jim350, 04-30-2011 20:25:37  
I knew this job would really suck when I went to remove the drawbar and the pins came out without a fight----that was a first.

Plenty of mouse urine been applied over the years to keep the drums nice and snug.

At least this tractor has been indoors a little bit, I don't think the last one was EVER under a roof.



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