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Looking at a 190XT, what should I watch for?

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JJL

04-06-2011 13:32:26




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Not real familiar with AC and I am looking at a 1973 190XT diesel. Hours are unknown, but it looks to be in real good shape. Has a cab and AC loader. I know to watch for the 2nd or 3rd gears popping out. Is there anything else to watch for? Thanks.




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charles todd

04-11-2011 20:04:01




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 Re: Looking at a 190XT, what should I watch for? in reply to JJL, 04-06-2011 13:32:26  
Bob, I have been out of town Red fishing in South Louisiana. I plan to take the valves off and check them out. I still feel like something is by-passing for my pressures to be below 100 psi.

I have had conflicting comments on the PD, but have enough hydraulic experience that I think I can figure it out. When I do, I will either post answers or have more questions. 8)
JJL, put it in 3rd or 4th and stand on the brakes. If it keeps going stop. Keep it in high, let out the clutch while standing on the brakes. It should stall the tractor down or out. Mine will just set there like a forklift or backhoe with a torque converter trans and will take off when you let off the brakes.

Good luck,

CT

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Mike B (SD)

04-06-2011 17:25:09




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 Re: Looking at a 190XT, what should I watch for? in reply to JJL, 04-06-2011 13:32:26  
I'm with Karl please verify serial number. The last XT190 was made in 1971. The non XT 190's were built until 1973. Other than what the guys have mentioned check for stress cracks in the front wheel support weldment. As much as I love the underrated Series III 190XT's they are not a good candidate for loaders. No sychronizers in the trans and my biggest complaint is they are to heavy in the front end.

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karl f

04-06-2011 16:20:46




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 Re: Looking at a 190XT, what should I watch for? in reply to JJL, 04-06-2011 13:32:26  
verify serial number and year.
If applicable, make sure 2 speed pto works properly and there are no signs of both bolt circles bolted at once!

karl f



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karl f

04-06-2011 16:35:33




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 Re: Looking at a 190XT, what should I watch for? in reply to karl f, 04-06-2011 16:20:46  
also in general, be leery of fresh paint, and lookout for little obvious but out of sight details that an excited buyer will miss. Any cobbling is a good indicator that it wasn't taken care of or repaired properly.

karl f



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charles todd

04-06-2011 13:36:51




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 Re: Looking at a 190XT, what should I watch for? in reply to JJL, 04-06-2011 13:32:26  
POWER DIRECTOR! I'm dealing with that on a 180. I did not know what to look for.

CT



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Bob Bancroft

04-06-2011 14:19:24




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 Re: Looking at a 190XT, what should I watch for? in reply to charles todd, 04-06-2011 13:36:51  
How are you making out with that? It appears you got some conflicting advice.



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JJL

04-06-2011 13:47:16




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 Re: Looking at a 190XT, what should I watch for? in reply to charles todd, 04-06-2011 13:36:51  
Charles,
How should I check the power director? I heard guys say to try to get them to slip in 3rd gear by using the brakes. Anything else?

Thanks



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JMS/.MN

04-06-2011 20:18:58




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 Re: Looking at a 190XT, what should I watch for? in reply to JJL, 04-06-2011 13:47:16  
Any gear other than high, but especially slower ones, low and high range, stand on the brakes, see if it slips. Early ones (1967?) had rear end issues, and had factory updates available, not all were done, but the Series III should all have the heavy finals.



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old

04-06-2011 13:38:06




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 Re: Looking at a 190XT, what should I watch for? in reply to JJL, 04-06-2011 13:32:26  
Check the oil and make sure it is not half diesel the roosa master pump are known to when the shaft seal goes bad to fill the oil pan with fuel and that turn can cause the engine to lock up



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