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05-03-2010 13:59:46

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I have a D14 that seems to use a lot of points.
It does have a 12 conversion.
I have read that I should use a different coil?
This is a Delco conversion
Or could there be a different problem?
I only use it 20 times a year to brush hogg.

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05-04-2010 18:08:24

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 Re: lot of points in reply to gerks, 05-03-2010 13:59:46  
I am building gm style hei distributors that will drop right in place of the delco remy 1111-700 series point distributors . These hei distributors modules are able to handle 4 amps or can be upgraded to handle 7.5 amps .Either module will deliver 44000 volts at the plug with 80 to 144 mjoules of spark energy . I am thinking that machined and new parts for a complete refurbish will run no more than 300. If anyone is interested. I have four delco remmy 1111 series distributors that i was removing the gear from for this hei up grade and i found that the star whell that operates the points the measurment from bottom of ramp to nose was different on all four distributors. I dont believe this is a promblem for points due to you adjust the gap and the wear to the lobes should be equal on all four lobes. However on the hall effect point eliminator kits that have a shutter that fits over the wheel if wheel is worn as the ones i checked yesterday could be loose and move causing erratic firing ,crossfiring , timing that moves excessivly etc.

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05-04-2010 10:31:31

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 Re: lot of points in reply to gerks, 05-03-2010 13:59:46  
I love the electronic system. Easy to install and once you set the timing you are pretty much free of further ignition problems. If you're coil isn't a 12 volt coil with 3 ohms of resistance you would most likely have to change the coil if you install an electronic system.

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05-04-2010 05:55:17

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 Re: lot of points in reply to gerks, 05-03-2010 13:59:46  
You need a 12 volt internal resister coil.


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05-04-2010 04:21:31

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 Re: lot of points in reply to gerks, 05-03-2010 13:59:46  
Also could be that your points wire is reversed, lets see if I remember it right. On a 6V positive ground system, the + terminal on the coil goes to the point wire in the dist. When changed to a - ground, the - wire on the coil is connected to the point wire in the dist. You could also change to a pertronix system, electronic ignition, its a $100part, but the same labor to install as a set of points.

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05-03-2010 14:19:12

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 Re: lot of points in reply to gerks, 05-03-2010 13:59:46  
If it has a 6 volt coil on it then yes it will eat points or a bad condenser will do the same thing. You either need a TRUE 12 volt coil which will say no external resister needed or you need ballast resister. I use O'Reilly's part # VR-1. They are small and easy to hide and can be bolted on sheet metal if you have a hole for them

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