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glenn veillon

04-12-2010 11:48:26




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what is the color of a 1957 wd 45. i see there is allis chalmers orange, persion orange. i would like to paint it original




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Al L. in Wisc.

04-13-2010 18:43:25




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 Re: allis chalmer paint in reply to glenn veillon, 04-12-2010 11:48:26  
Rod(NH); 60080, does this paint have the nasties that one should use a fresh source of breathable air? Just debating whether to paint my '55 CA, now she is in her tobacco shed work clothes - second owner. Thanks in advance for your input.



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JMS/.MN

04-12-2010 21:26:56




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 Re: allis chalmer paint in reply to glenn veillon, 04-12-2010 11:48:26  
When you see something called Allis Chalmers orange, it"s likely what you find in a Fleet store, auto store, etc. Cheap paint, turns pink over time. PO #1 is correct.



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steve(ill)

04-12-2010 15:57:07




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 Re: allis chalmer paint in reply to glenn veillon, 04-12-2010 11:48:26  
tractors prior to 1960 were all PO #1. Of course it was not called #1, untill there was a #2 so at FIRST it was just called PO. The D series up till early 70s was called PO2 and is more reddish color. Last color was Corporate Orange which was even more red.



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Jeff Z.

04-12-2010 12:33:19




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 Re: allis chalmer paint in reply to glenn veillon, 04-12-2010 11:48:26  
I would say Persian Orange #1
PPG Allis Chalmers Persian Orange (Persian #1, so called)-60080



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Jeff Z,

04-12-2010 12:39:12




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 Re: allis chalmer paint in reply to Jeff Z., 04-12-2010 12:33:19  
I think it was Allis Chalmers Orange until 1948 and then it went to Persian Orange #1 until 1960 and then it went to Persian Orange #2.



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ASEguy

04-13-2010 04:09:17




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 Re: allis chalmer paint in reply to Jeff Z,, 04-12-2010 12:39:12  
Jeff, Do you know if the switch to PO#1 was for all 1948 AC ag. tractors? My C will be painted this winter and I wanted to do it right. Also have you ever heard of AC lovers that painted their tractors Case orange due to it flowing better and looking very close to AC orange?
Thanks Gerard



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Jeff Z.

04-13-2010 14:56:55




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 Re: allis chalmer paint in reply to ASEguy, 04-13-2010 04:09:17  
Paint on these tractors is a mystery.
I have never found a source that knows all the colors and years for sure.
One source I have says the first orange used was this one:
Allis-Chalmers Dupont Dulux 008 for a match

1929-1948 Models 25-40, United, U, All-Crop, UC, WC, WF, A, B, RC, C

1949 through 1960 Dupont 29047 for a match
so called Persian Orange 1

1961 0n PPG 60396 for a match so called Persian Orange 2.

There was also another orange called Corporate Orange for the heavy equipment.

Who really knows????
If it was mine I would find a Persian Orange 1 and Paint it.

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Rod (NH)

04-13-2010 16:11:36




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 Re: allis chalmer paint in reply to Jeff Z., 04-13-2010 14:56:55  
Jeff,

DuPont 008 is no longer a valid code and Dulux alkyd enamel hasn't been available for years. When I was researching the early persian orange (#1) color for my '42B, I found that the 29047 in DuPont had too much red in it for a decent match to the original shade. It's much more like PPG's 60396, sometimes called persian orange #2, used much later, circa 1960. I have found that PPG's 60080 is the best match for that early persian orange, used on ALL Bs & Cs. In DuPont, the closest match I have seen is YS074. The 60080 and YS074 colors are a pumpkin shade or orange, as was the original color. Here's a sample of 60080 and 60396 as compared to the original:

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There are some actual sprayout samples of a few different codes for persian orange in the paint and body work forum, courtesy of Jason (ma). A search should bring them up or I can link to if desired. Most seem to settle on 60080 as the best choice if one wants to be as close to original as possible.

Rod

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Jeff Z.

04-14-2010 02:43:00




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 Re: allis chalmer paint in reply to Rod (NH), 04-13-2010 16:11:36  
Rod, Like I said, Who Knows????
If I paint one it will Hugger Orange.
Solved that problem.



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