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RE: need help Identifying a/c model

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Gary Souza

02-19-2010 08:10:45




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I have a small ac we just picked up,have not found serial number yet.Its a small three wheel tractor.It has a small four cylinder engine.I found engine plate that has some numbers I can read 1262412 and 3 1/8 X 4 any help would be welcomed Thanks




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BDT in Minnesota

02-19-2010 17:02:17




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 Re: RE: need help Identifying a/c model in reply to Gary Souza, 02-19-2010 08:10:45  
[quote="BDT in Minnesota"](quoted from post at 17:23:58 02/19/10) Except that that bore and stroke (3 1/8 X 4) 123 cid. The model CE Allis engine is 125 cid , has a 3 3/8 X 3 1/2 bore and stroke, and does not bear an id plate..[/quote]



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bg/mo

02-19-2010 14:16:08




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 Re: RE: need help Identifying a/c model in reply to Gary Souza, 02-19-2010 08:10:45  
It look just exactly like a model C, except for the channel??



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Gary Souza

02-19-2010 14:47:49




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 Re: RE: need help Identifying a/c model in reply to bg/mo, 02-19-2010 14:16:08  
Yes it looks like C except for the channel



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old

02-19-2010 15:55:17




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 Re: RE: need help Identifying a/c model in reply to Gary Souza, 02-19-2010 14:47:49  
Sounds like you may have your self an RC same engine as the B/C but the frame more like a WC/WD. The B/C/CA all used the engine as part of the tractor frame but the RC/WC/WF/WD/ and WD45 use a channel iron frame that the engine sort of sit down in



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BDT in Minnesota

02-19-2010 16:23:58




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 Re: RE: need help Identifying a/c model in reply to old, 02-19-2010 15:55:17  
Except that that bore and stroke (3 1/8 X 4)comes out to 157 cid.. The model CE Allis engine is 125 cid , has a 3 3/8 X 3 1/2 bore and stroke, and does not bear an id plate..



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BDT in Minnesota

02-19-2010 17:06:45




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 Re: RE: need help Identifying a/c model in reply to BDT in Minnesota, 02-19-2010 16:23:58  
make that 123 cid on that 3 1/8 X 4 bore and stroke.



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BDT in Minnesota

02-19-2010 11:17:13




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 Re: RE: need help Identifying a/c model in reply to Gary Souza, 02-19-2010 08:10:45  
Gary, what size are the rear tires, and how many speeds on the transmission??

Does this tractor have an AC emblem on the tinwork?

Is this a gas or diesel?

Does the plate that you refer to state Made in USA?

This should be enough questions for now, but there may be a few more asked??



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Kip-Utah

02-19-2010 09:44:24




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 Re: RE: need help Identifying a/c model in reply to Gary Souza, 02-19-2010 08:10:45  
I would also guess either a C or CA. Either model with a single front wheel would be the least common version by numbers. Both tractor models were offered as 2-wheel tricycles that are the most common, adjustable wide fronts next most common, & SFW with only a few hundred ever built. Kip



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Gary Souza

02-19-2010 10:32:51




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 Re: RE: need help Identifying a/c model in reply to Kip-Utah, 02-19-2010 09:44:24  
I looked at pictures of the model C looks to be differant than the one we have,ours has about 4inch channel frame rails



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Gary in da UP

02-19-2010 09:12:36




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 Re: RE: need help Identifying a/c model in reply to Gary Souza, 02-19-2010 08:10:45  
Rare?, no. Scarce, yes



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bjb in Tx from Ne

02-19-2010 08:35:42




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 Re: RE: need help Identifying a/c model in reply to Gary Souza, 02-19-2010 08:10:45  
Sound most likely a model C, but without a picture its hard to tell. Look right around the shifter for the SN. The preceding letter/s should tell you the model.



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Gary Souza

02-19-2010 08:46:37




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 Re: RE: need help Identifying a/c model in reply to bjb in Tx from Ne, 02-19-2010 08:35:42  
Are the single wheel models rare?



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