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steering gear c vs.b

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dusty1771

02-13-2010 20:56:21




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i put a wide front from a B on my C now it steers backwards how can i fix thiswith out changing gear box the one from the B is cracked




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Bob Bancroft

02-14-2010 08:35:35




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 Re: steering gear c vs.b in reply to dusty1771, 02-13-2010 20:56:21  
Never tried this but it's a thought. If the steering gears are the same brand, maybe you could switch the screw. I just don't know if there are any other differences amongst the same brand box other than one is obviously a left thread and one is right. There were different brand steering gears used so beware.



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DickL

02-14-2010 09:10:07




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 Re: steering gear c vs.b in reply to Bob Bancroft, 02-14-2010 08:35:35  
Different diameter cross shafts.



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Bob Bancroft

02-14-2010 09:30:43




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 Re: steering gear c vs.b in reply to DickL, 02-14-2010 09:10:07  
So given that difference- do you know if the screw assembly can be switched?



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DickL

02-14-2010 15:15:14




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 Re: steering gear c vs.b in reply to Bob Bancroft, 02-14-2010 09:30:43  
Good question Bob. I have several Gemmer steering boxes for C's in the shop and several Ross steering boxes for B's out there also. I have one Ross for a C that I rebuild here at the house but did not compare the parts when I had them apart. I have a C at the other place that I think has a Ross box but I will not get out here to mess with for quite some time. It won't help now but when I get to it some year I will remember and take pictures.

The Gemmer and Ross boxes are very different.

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Ralph 1111

02-14-2010 00:32:46




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 Re: steering gear c vs.b in reply to dusty1771, 02-13-2010 20:56:21  
remove arm from gear box and roate 180 degree.
Ralph



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DickL

02-14-2010 08:21:58




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 Re: steering gear c vs.b in reply to Ralph 1111, 02-14-2010 00:32:46  
Ralph has it. To prove it out hold a pencil in the center and move it back and fourth like your gear box steering arm is now and you can see that it will push or pull the steering link the opposite direction from the top to the bottom. Problem being the old steering link will have to be altered and not look any where correct. That is why most will buy a B steering box to replace the C steering box.

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old

02-13-2010 21:14:18




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 Re: steering gear c vs.b in reply to dusty1771, 02-13-2010 20:56:21  
Yep that is the problem with them and just switching the front end you get a right turn when you try to go left and verse visa. I do not know that you can do any thing about ti other then find a B steering box that is good



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