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I600 vs. D17

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ACNY Wayne

01-27-2010 16:50:24




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Which tractor, in like condition and equipment, would be more valuable?

Suposedly the I600 is heavier built but a little less on the horsepower and weight.

The I600 is also rarer, don't know what that means value wise, I believe the D17 was the most popular AC built. br>Thanks




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steve(ill)

01-28-2010 16:17:26




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 Re: I600 vs. D17 in reply to ACNY Wayne, 01-27-2010 16:50:24  
you should buy the D17... send me the name of the guy with the I600 !



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ACNY Wayne

01-29-2010 03:43:32




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 Re: I600 vs. D17 in reply to steve(ill), 01-28-2010 16:17:26  
Steve, the one I looked at was rough--rough. Beginner patch welds on the loader, seat was raised on two 1" thick plates of steel (might have some value here); it needed a carb, Loader valves, fenders, half of the hood, gauges, sidepanels, tires, etc., and probably a motor rebuild. I only did a walk around. He wanted $3K, I considered offering $1K but didn't think it was worth it. Looks like a money pit to me. My question here is for future I600's. It seemed to me that since AC didn't make that many of these that they might have a better value. I'll be glad to send his contact info to you if you want it, I can't handle this one. Your reply was funny, you were probably joking but just in case....

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DiyDave

01-28-2010 04:40:21




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 Re: I600 vs. D17 in reply to ACNY Wayne, 01-27-2010 16:50:24  
I600 was the construction/industrial version of the D15 series 2. Condition being equal price of the I600 will likely be higher than a D17.



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ACNY Wayne

01-29-2010 06:46:49




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 Re: I600 vs. D17 in reply to DiyDave, 01-28-2010 04:40:21  
Dave,
This shuttle clutch works on a foot pedal that is pivoted in the middle: ie. toe and heel. I think it works, didn't see the tractor move. Probably could "restore" with paint and parts for around 2000. It has an AC loader, like a 460. Front mounted pump works.Control valves are shot. Anything major would make this a loser.



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ACNY Wayne

01-29-2010 18:29:38




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 Re: I600 vs. D17 in reply to ACNY Wayne, 01-29-2010 06:46:49  
Dave, my book must be different, pp.284 in my book is about harvesters. My Swinford has the I600 on pp 206? Anyway, the one I saw was a square grill/hood. Maybe I can get the owner to send me some pictures.

WM.



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ACNY Wayne

01-30-2010 07:24:37




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 Re: I600 vs. D17 in reply to ACNY Wayne, 01-29-2010 18:29:38  
Duh, I never thought about that. :)

Thought maybe I had the wrong book.

Anyways, it sounds like a good I600 might be a desirable tractor if its in good shape.

Thanks



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DiyDave

01-30-2010 05:13:40




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 Re: I600 vs. D17 in reply to ACNY Wayne, 01-29-2010 18:29:38  
Wayne: Norm published 2 books on AC. I was referring to the construction one.



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DiyDave

01-29-2010 16:47:17




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 Re: I600 vs. D17 in reply to ACNY Wayne, 01-29-2010 06:46:49  
Never seen a foot petal one, probably wouldn't be hard to rig. Might be oem in a newer forklift, The one that I have seen was a hand lever on a series II tractor/loader. Does this one have round tin, or square. Could be a 500 or 600 series f-lift, see page 284, Swinford's construction book.



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ACNY Wayne

01-28-2010 09:32:51




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 Re: I600 vs. D17 in reply to DiyDave, 01-28-2010 04:40:21  
Dave,

That's what I thought. Would the shuttle clutch be an asset or more of a problem? Haven't seen too many for sale.

Thanks,
Wayne



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DiyDave

01-29-2010 05:29:14




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 Re: I600 vs. D17 in reply to ACNY Wayne, 01-28-2010 09:32:51  
I have only seen one shuttle clutch, in my travels. They are definitely rare, at least around here. They use a handle, on the left side, similar to the power director clutch, I assume some of the clutch parts will interchange. If it works, its an asset, if not... maybe not.



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gatz

01-29-2010 11:22:03




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 Re: I600 vs. D17 in reply to DiyDave, 01-29-2010 05:29:14  
The shuttle clutch and the PD clutch assemblies are the same.
What makes it into a "shuttle" is the reversing gear set ahead of the PD.



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