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hand cranking a CA

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willys53allis

12-16-2009 21:31:23




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i have a 53' CA that the starter is acting up on and i was wondering how hard it would be to hand crank it. i've had to hand crank a 3 cylinder lyster but that had decompression valves. what do you do? roll it till it hits a compression stroke and then yank? just wanted to ask so i don't lose any teeth. thanks




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kts_b

12-20-2009 18:06:06




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 Re: hand cranking a CA in reply to willys53allis, 12-16-2009 21:31:23  
What throttle position would you use? I"d assume low throttle, but my B likes to start about 1/3, no choke.



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GC Mayes

12-18-2009 16:00:26




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 Re: hand cranking a CA in reply to willys53allis, 12-16-2009 21:31:23  
putting the tractor in 2nd gear and having someone pull the tractor and releasing the clutch is always a good and safe option to start it.



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JMS/.MN

12-18-2009 17:56:29




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 Re: hand cranking a CA in reply to GC Mayes, 12-18-2009 16:00:26  
Much better to use High (4th) gear. Lower gears just make the wheels skid, and spin the engine unnecessarily fast if it does turn.



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Mr. Bob

12-17-2009 19:17:25




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 Re: hand cranking a CA in reply to willys53allis, 12-16-2009 21:31:23  
One can NEVER be too careful when yanking the crank.



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ohio

12-19-2009 10:38:45




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 Re: hand cranking a CA in reply to Mr. Bob, 12-17-2009 19:17:25  
I'll second that one, Mr. Bob!



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Zachary Hoyt

12-17-2009 18:58:29




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 Re: hand cranking a CA in reply to willys53allis, 12-16-2009 21:31:23  
I had a C that I cranked a lot because the charging system didn't work. I would stand on the right side of the tractor, put my left hand on the side of the grill, bring the engine slowly around till the handle was pointing down at about a 45 degree angle and then pull it through about 90 degrees across the bottom of the stroke. It would turn over pretty easily. If I had parked the tractor where the ground rose to its right I would have to kneel down in order not to be too high up to pull it through comfortably. I just traded the C for a Farmall H or I would take a picture to show what I mean. Always make sure it's in neutral before you crank. It was my first tractor with a crank, so it took me a little time to learn where to set the choke and throttle to get it to start.
Zach

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stu (ON)

12-17-2009 08:25:05




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 Re: hand cranking a CA in reply to willys53allis, 12-16-2009 21:31:23  
third party image

Pedal lock refers to a WD.



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old

12-17-2009 08:12:53




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 Re: hand cranking a CA in reply to willys53allis, 12-16-2009 21:31:23  
If it is tuned up well and easy start yep it can be done, but if you how the crank wrong or do it wrong it can/will brake your hand or arm and you will then go to the hospital. BTDT on a B years ago and I was holding it correctly but it still got me wore a brace on my right arm for 6 weeks from that



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Eldon (WA)

12-17-2009 08:40:01




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 Re: hand cranking a CA in reply to old, 12-17-2009 08:12:53  
How do you crank with your right arm? Seems like it would be awkward, but can't say I have ever tried it.



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old

12-17-2009 08:45:56




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 Re: hand cranking a CA in reply to Eldon (WA), 12-17-2009 08:40:01  
I'm left handed so it is natural for me to use my right arm instead of my left. You just stand to the left of the front end and give it a pull



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Dick L

12-17-2009 03:28:22




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 Re: hand cranking a CA in reply to willys53allis, 12-16-2009 21:31:23  
I crank by pulling up quarter turns only.



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Wogs

12-17-2009 14:27:08




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 Re: hand cranking a CA in reply to Dick L, 12-17-2009 03:28:22  
Good advice from Dick, dont ever wrap your thumb around the crank handle, cup the handle in your hand and pull up quarter turns. Be patient, I messed up my hand pretty good doing it the wrong way.



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