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Early Allis Chalmers push mower

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valleyview

11-14-2009 21:13:35




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Posted a picture in the implement section of this little push mower. Decal tag on it says Allis Chalmers Lawn and Garden, Milwaukee, Wis. It doesn't appear to have any indication of being built somewhere else. The manuals I see on ebay for them are for newer looking mowers. It doesn't run but I had to have it rather than it being scrapped as I've never run across one before. The motor is free. Looks like a little Briggs. Anyone know anything else on these.

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cadet trooper

11-16-2009 15:51:19




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 Re: Early Allis Chalmers push mower in reply to valleyview, 11-14-2009 21:13:35  
I had one that appears to be the same called a 19" Trimmer I"m not sure what your asking but engine model and spec number will be on the engine shroud and you can lookup everything you need to know about it including mfr. date and even get part numbers from Briggs and Stratton website and you won"t find a Simplicity number on it anywhere but somewhere new the rear upper side of deck should have a catalog number on a black sticky plate with an SN if not measure the lower housing width and go to your local AGCO or Simplicity dealer with the dimension and they will figure it out.

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Dalex

11-15-2009 19:07:26




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 Re: Early Allis Chalmers push mower in reply to valleyview, 11-14-2009 21:13:35  
I've got one too , Black B&S engine , Orange mower body , Allis - Chalmers , made by Simplicity decal on the back by the spark plug



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valleyview

11-15-2009 19:29:04




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 Re: Early Allis Chalmers push mower in reply to Dalex, 11-15-2009 19:07:26  
would you want to post a picture. I don't have anything on this one saying Simplicity anywhere.



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s.crum

11-15-2009 17:46:50




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 Re: Early Allis Chalmers push mower in reply to valleyview, 11-14-2009 21:13:35  
Interesting, we had several old Allis Chalmers electric motors at work. Huge old 60 horse jobs. Later these were upgraded to 125 horse Siemens-Allis motors. After some major upgrades we are now running 200 horse Baldors. The 200s are the size of the old 60s and use less power. Allis must have been quite a diversified company at one time.



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John(IN)

11-15-2009 04:55:48




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 Re: Early Allis Chalmers push mower in reply to valleyview, 11-14-2009 21:13:35  
I looked at your photo and believe this was a simplicity unit. The one I have has a metal tag rivited on with the model and serial number. Model is WB21 which is a 21" walk behind. Also has a plate on the handle with the A-C logo decal.



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Oris

11-15-2009 03:18:47




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 Re: Early Allis Chalmers push mower in reply to valleyview, 11-14-2009 21:13:35  
Not seeing a picture, but working for Allis Chalmers in the 60' and 70'. another company beside Simplicity that made a mower with serveral different models was "Hahn". They were located in Evansville, Indiana. The were very good mower and also used the Briggs and Stratton engine.



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Jeff Z.

11-14-2009 22:01:33




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 Re: Early Allis Chalmers push mower in reply to valleyview, 11-14-2009 21:13:35  
Allis Chalmers contracted with Simpicity to build thier mowers and lawn tractors. Allis then bought Simplicity. Briggs and Stratton now own Smplicity. Many mowers built by Simplicity were very much the same being sold under the Simplicity name and the Allis Chalmers name.
If you do a little digging you will probably find that exact mower with the Simpilcity name also.



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valleyview

11-15-2009 06:35:50




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 Re: Early Allis Chalmers push mower in reply to Jeff Z., 11-14-2009 22:01:33  
Don't recall seeing an old Simplicity walk behind ever either. Is there any contact that someone recommends to help me out in finding a little more informtion on it. Looks pretty simple to refinish so I probably will. Wheels are all original on it and in good shape. Needs rear plastic or metal drop down guard and side chute guard though. We've had Simplicity for as long as I remember and knew all about the Allis connection. Got a 20 horse Agco and love it. Not so sure about the brand new Agco units though. I've heard a few bad stories on some units with 100 hours or less on them. Carb and hydro failures. Thanks for the help thus far.

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