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D-17 ser.3

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Kevin Larkey

10-11-2009 08:47:31

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Can any help with Hdy . to stop 2 point arms and a single cly. with lifting at the same time! Have turned control valve to shut off two point ,but still wants to lift them .We are mounting a 190 corn picker to it and having troubles. Or can call me at 815-878-2524 or 815-878-8357 Thank you!

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Kevin Larkey

10-12-2009 19:21:16

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 Re: D-17 ser.3 in reply to Kevin Larkey, 10-11-2009 08:47:31  
Yes Mr. Shy high you are rite so far as to what we have to do . We have it all mounted and you do have to use the 2 point arms . So we are going to have to do a little creative plumbing to make it work! But thank you all for your advice!!!

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10-11-2009 11:00:59

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 Re: D-17 ser.3 in reply to Kevin Larkey, 10-11-2009 08:47:31  
yep, raise the arms all the way up and chain them so they dont go down. then hyd will work.

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10-11-2009 09:55:52

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 Re: D-17 ser.3 in reply to Kevin Larkey, 10-11-2009 08:47:31  
That control valve at the rear is a transport valve- it does not shut off, it just controls how much oil flows through it. Meant to be used with pull-type implements, when screwed counter-clockwise. Turn it clockwise, and tie the arms up if you want to use the remote valve without waiting for the arms to raise when lifting the picker.

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Kevin Larkey

10-11-2009 11:13:53

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 Re: D-17 ser.3 in reply to JMS/.MN, 10-11-2009 09:55:52  
Thank you , but I just want the arms to stay in the down position or one ! so can I just chain them down?

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10-11-2009 11:28:42

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 Re: D-17 ser.3 in reply to Kevin Larkey, 10-11-2009 11:13:53  
No. If it was a WD, you could unhook the hoses and plug the lines, or put in a high pressure ball valve in each line, but the D17 has an internal hose feeding the lift cylinder, from where the transport valve mounts. I suppose you could remove the snap rings and pull the arms off.

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10-12-2009 09:06:33

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 Re: D-17 ser.3 in reply to JMS/.MN, 10-11-2009 11:28:42  
My dad ran a 190 picker on a Series III. You can't take the arms off because the rear mainframe mounts to them. Dad did not have a transport valve on his Series III, he had more of a home-made plumbing arrangement and he just disconnected the internal lift cylinder and only the remote ram was hooked up when he had the picker mounted.

I looked in my 190 picker operators manual last night briefly and did not see a good explanation of what to do here in the manual. Mike

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