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AC -c or AC ca

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Ralphwd45

07-14-2009 00:52:40




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saturday, I bought a AC tractor wearing the CA decals. I took the serial number home with me, and looked on the serial number section, of the YT site, and think that I have a 48-49 C. Would someone double check for me? The number is C64461. It has a 3spd tranny, not the 4 spd one that I have been told that the CA has, and the drawbar is simular to the one on my 52 B, and not the snap coupler, which I have been told that the CA is supposed to have. It has an adjustable front end, and a 1 bottom plow hanging on the rear, which looks simular to the B type of mounting, with the little single cylinder doing the work, to raise the plow. The tractor seems to run ok, but needed gas and a battery, and air in the right rear, before I could load it.It has completely dent free sheet metal, two working lights, and what suprised me was the complete shutter system was still on it, and not froze up. I am now in the market for a set of cultivators, to put on it. All my tractors have to earn there keep. Please give me a shout, on the tractor size, and year. Thanks Ralph

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Ralphwd45

07-15-2009 01:03:15




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 Re: AC -c or AC ca in reply to Ralphwd45, 07-14-2009 00:52:40  
Thanks Guys!! I kind of figured that it is a C, and also a 48, but I wanted some more minds on the subject.The rear wheels adjust the same as on my 52 B, and the wfe adjusts the same as my WD45. I do wish that it had the magnito instead of the coil-distributer set up. It is a bear trying to install new points and condenser, with the hood so low! Say Bob Bancroft! How does Tacoma washington, grab you for close to NY? Thanks anyway for the offer on the cultivators. I am a crane mechanic, for Boeing, but I don't think that they would let me air cargo them out here. They just don't love me! Thanks again guys Ralph

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Bob Bancroft

07-15-2009 18:43:25




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 Re: AC -c or AC ca in reply to Ralphwd45, 07-15-2009 01:03:15  
Holy cow!!! You really are in another corner of the country!! And I have a magneto I would trade for a dist. set up in a flash!



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wilman

07-14-2009 11:04:33




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 Re: AC -c or AC ca in reply to Ralphwd45, 07-14-2009 00:52:40  
Definitely a C. CA's have 4 speed transmissions with a spot for a hand clutch and a CA's serial number will start with CA... where as a C starts with C.

Having said that, the later B's, C's and CA's are basically all the same from the transmission forward with the "CE" engine. Only difference is the govenor speed and carburator jet sizes. It is possible to mix and match not only tin work but engines and front ends and steering boxes. I have seen BC's (b rear and c front) and CB's (c rear and b front) and in theory you could mix a CA front end with a C rear end or just the radiator shroud could have been switched sometime. Only way you would know for sure is to check the engine number and compare that with the engine numbers for the C or the CA.

Wil

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Bob Bancroft

07-14-2009 10:10:33




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 Re: AC -c or AC ca in reply to Ralphwd45, 07-14-2009 00:52:40  
I have a cultivator that came with a B that I bought-for sale. I'm in central NY if you're not too far away.



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Danny J O'Brien

07-14-2009 08:03:51




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 Re: AC -c or AC ca in reply to Ralphwd45, 07-14-2009 00:52:40  
Also a dead give away is the rear rims are adj like WD and WD45



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Brian G. NY

07-14-2009 05:11:39




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 Re: AC -c or AC ca in reply to Ralphwd45, 07-14-2009 00:52:40  
Wow, the "rebadging" of WDs to WD-45s is pretty common and now they're doing the same with the C/CA? Lot easier to spot a fake CA than a fake WD-45, tho.



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Brian G. NY

07-14-2009 05:11:17




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 Re: AC -c or AC ca in reply to Ralphwd45, 07-14-2009 00:52:40  
Wow, the "rebadging" of WDs to WD-45s is pretty common and now they're doing the same with the C/CA? Lot easier to spot a fake CA than a fake WD, tho.



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Louis Torrans

07-14-2009 04:55:15




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 Re: AC -c or AC ca in reply to Ralphwd45, 07-14-2009 00:52:40  
I think with the 3 speed it's a pretty sure bet to be a C.



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stu (ON)

07-14-2009 04:28:10




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 Re: AC -c or AC ca in reply to Ralphwd45, 07-14-2009 00:52:40  
CA serial numbers didn't go that high. You seem to have a 1948 C.



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ddl

07-14-2009 05:44:07




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 Re: AC -c or AC ca in reply to stu (ON), 07-14-2009 04:28:10  
ca serial numbers start with CA



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