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D-12 Allis Information Needed

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AC Power

08-17-2008 15:25:58

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Hello. I have found an allis d-12. I have looked all over for a serial number and cant seem to find it. I did find a number stamped on the back of the engine block where it bolts up to the torque tube housing. The number reads 12-3138-R, then right across from it on the torque tube there is another number F25597. Is either one of these the serial number? If they are not, please tell me exactly where on the tractor to find it. I also have a few other questions. Did all of the d-12"s have the grill with the screen and 3 bars going across in 1959? Did any of the 1959 d-12"s have the power adjust wheels. I know in later years they did. Also, will a d-10 grill switch and bolt right up to a d-12. I think that is all i need to find out for right now. If any one can help me, I sure would appreciate it awhole lot. Thanks a bunch, Jason

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08-17-2008 16:21:19

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 Re: D-12 Allis Information Needed in reply to AC Power, 08-17-2008 15:25:58  
You are looking in the right spot, but that F-25XXX is not a valid serial #. The highest serial # is under 10,000, make sure you are reading it right. You are right, d/10 screen will interchange, and spin-out rims were often times relocated from junkers to earlier tractors, but I think they were available as an option, more so on the 12 than the 10. Get C.H Wendell's book or Norm Swinford's both are excellent references.

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AC Power

08-17-2008 19:09:42

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 Re: D-12 Allis Information Needed in reply to DiyDave, 08-17-2008 16:21:19  
Thanks a bunch for your help. I have one last question for right now. Where can I buy those 2 books, and is that the name of the books or just the authors name that wrote them? I would love to buy both of those books, dont know where to get them at. Thanks, Jason

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08-18-2008 03:38:19

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 Re: D-12 Allis Information Needed in reply to AC Power, 08-17-2008 19:09:42  
C.H. Wendell's is The Allis Chalmers story. I think Norm Swinford's is Allis Chalmers Farm Equipment. Both may now be out of print, but you could try Amazon, or google used books.

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AC Power

08-18-2008 18:46:19

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 Re: D-12 Allis Information Needed in reply to DiyDave, 08-18-2008 03:38:19  
Okay thanks for the info on the books.

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AC Power

08-17-2008 19:25:04

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 Re: D-12 Allis Information Needed in reply to BrianAhart(MO), 08-17-2008 16:17:17  
Thanks for the info. That is a big help to me. The first number i found was 12-3138-R, is it the serial number? That was on the back of the engine where it bolts up to the bell housing. Then on the bell housing i found this number, F25597. Im sure that aint the serial number. Both numbers was right across from each other on the left side. Besides the serial number, and the grill, is there any other way a person could tell it isnt a 1959. Thanks again, Jason

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AC Power

08-18-2008 18:55:17

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 Re: D-12 Allis Information Needed in reply to BrianAhart(MO), 08-18-2008 16:49:57  
The number on the bell housing may be d12 5597. It was kinda hard to read and i didnt know if the owner wanted me to scratch off his paint there or not. I'm going back here in a couple more days to look at it again. Im in the antique tractor pulling and they have to be 1959 and older. So if this d-12 is a 61 or 63 model, what all what i have to change to make it look just like a 1959 to where nobody could ever tell the difference. Later, Jason

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08-25-2008 04:55:18

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 Re: D-12 Allis Information Needed in reply to AC Power, 08-18-2008 18:55:17  
Different pulls have different year limmits, yours at 59 is newest I have heard, some 58 and the one that I am working on labor day weekend is 1955 so just be prepared for you go to a different pull and you are told that it is too new. And if they suspected something was not quite right they would check serial number.

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