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pilot199

08-15-2008 20:07:14




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I'm restoring a '39 Model B that has a right-angled gear box attached to the rear shaft allowing the pulley to turn in horizantal fashion.

This gear box appears to have been installed using make shift bracing. It looks to be very homemade & unusual.

Does anyone have info. as to how these are properly mounted?

Thanks,

Gary




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steve(ill)

08-16-2008 06:00:05




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 Re: model B in reply to pilot199, 08-15-2008 20:07:14  
yes, there should be a tapered key shaft sticking out the left side of the rear case, at an angle to the rear splined PTO. that is the factory setup. anything mounted on the rear pto shaft external is not a factory setup.



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pilot199

08-16-2008 07:04:23




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 Re: model B in reply to steve(ill), 08-16-2008 06:00:05  
Yes I can tell that this was added, Any idea as to what the mounting brackets are supposed to look like?

Gary



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Uncle Ernie

08-16-2008 05:44:01




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 Re: model B in reply to pilot199, 08-15-2008 20:07:14  
The pulley and gearbox on a B are in a casting that bolts to the back of the transmission along with the hydraulics. Can you add a picture of what you have?



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pilot199

08-16-2008 21:02:09




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 Re: model B in reply to Uncle Ernie, 08-16-2008 05:44:01  
third party image

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The attached photo shows the right angle gearbox mounted on my tractor. The problem I have is how to keep this thing mounted properly & still do an authentic restoration.

The framework supporting it is just a patchwork of channel & angle iron. I plan to mount the 42" mower back on the tractor when done.

Any info. would be appreciated. Thanks,

Gary

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ddl

08-17-2008 09:28:57




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 Re: model B in reply to pilot199, 08-16-2008 21:02:09  
I think you answered your own question when you said it was added. The original implements that were meant to run with the tractor would not have needed that pulley i suspect so i would take it off and restore the tractor then with the implements it was suppose to run. Ingenious idea though, does it run a mower?



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pilot199

08-17-2008 09:40:22




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 Re: model B in reply to ddl, 08-17-2008 09:28:57  
Yes, this turns an old Woods 42" cut belly mower.

I was hoping to find a better way to support this gearbox & continue using it because the way it is presently you must remove it in order to change the drive belt! Also, there was an added, heavy channel iron frame which supported this whole thing.

I think I'll take your suggestion & remove it & start over. I need to find print outs or photos of these tractors with belly mowers that I can copy.

Thanks,

Gary

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ddl

08-17-2008 09:28:30




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 Re: model B in reply to pilot199, 08-16-2008 21:02:09  
I think you answered your own question when you said it was added. The original implements that were meant to run with the tractor would not have needed that pulley i suspect so i would take it off and restore the tractor then with the implements it was suppose to run. Ingenious idea though, does it run a mower?



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