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1949 Allis Chalmers G

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Mitch in Tx.

08-04-2008 06:30:33




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I need to be educated on what to look for when buying an Allis Chalmers G. I have read as much as I can find, but I have only seen two of these tractors up close. I would love to have a "Dutch Uncle" advice me. I plan to buy a G for show use as well as working a 1 acre garden plot. What would you want to see in an Allis Chalmers G that you say spent $3500.00 to buy? What are the negitives about the little guy? Positives? What parts are hard to find? Please take the time to offer your thoughts. I am the proverbial fish out of water on this tractor. Thanks in advance for your thoughts.

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redcolt

08-22-2008 10:53:08




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 Re: 1949 Allis Chalmers G in reply to Mitch in Tx., 08-04-2008 06:30:33  
all this talk about the allis g is great, i recently bought my dad a g after many years of him seeing one at tractor shows and him saying i sure would like to find one of those little tractors to buy. we also have an 8n that we are restoring right now but my question is does anyone have a pic or part on a rear hitch for a g his has a set of cultivators and a v belt pulley but it doesn"t have a hitch on the back. he wants to build or buy one to put on it so we can pull a small wagon behind it at tractor shows. any info or pics would be great, our g is in the tractor photo gallery from TN thanks again, spencer

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NE IA

08-04-2008 20:24:46




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 Re: 1949 Allis Chalmers G in reply to Mitch in Tx., 08-04-2008 06:30:33  
The loader G's had a beefed up front end. A front end weight (pie shaped adds value).

Always store your G with the clutch locked down.

Rear rubber is getting harder to find.

And above all never--freakin NEVER hitch to the drawbar supports, only to the hole in the drawbar. Some have tried to repair the block where the support bolts into. Keep a clevis in the drawbar hole so no one else screws up your engine block. That was a sorry butttt design by AC.

Implments are getting harder to find as the years go on also.

A great choice for very small children to drive as you can walk behind and shut off the switch. Even adults have issues reaching the stupid swirch. Yet small children can simply stand up--while stepping in the clutch and brake using their weight and no leg force in case they get in trouble.

The steering wheel has a V so you can see straight ahead while cultivating.

I got a brain cramp as to what side, but most G's have the one fender that seems to crack often, and 99% of the time it is the same side.

Has the same engine as a MH pony. Continetal N-62 if I'm thinking clear this eve.

I always shut the gas off under the tank on ALL my tractors, and the G isn't the best one for getting your fingers on.

Implments are very easy to put on and off for the most part.

The belt pulleys are the same as a B-C, many have a V belt pulley on them.

Creaper gears are one of those debatable things, but most I guess claim that they all had them in the transmission. Check this board for alot of discussion on that subject.

Very easy to steer, and if you want to park crossways inside your garage, you can lift the front end around so you can get the wives car in again, and save alot of problems within the household. Wives never seem to appreciate being able to get their car only part way in the garage.

Even the hard core anti-tractor wives will soften up when you buy a G. Chicks dig em.

If they have a loader on them, only small children can get to the seat, or a mountan goat.

Easy to become a favorite.

Scale Model G's were designed / scaled off our little G.

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soundguy

08-05-2008 06:22:06




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 Re: 1949 Allis Chalmers G in reply to NE IA, 08-04-2008 20:24:46  
Ditto on the gas valve and the power switch.

I've often thought about installing a remote switch near my headlamp on the steering support post.. never have done it though.. I did however add a small inline gas valve to the left side of the tractor before the line hits the carb.. big improvement.. etc..


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Mitch in Tx.

08-04-2008 23:55:24




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 Re: 1949 Allis Chalmers G in reply to NE IA, 08-04-2008 20:24:46  
Thank you so much. I have gained information that is only acquired from people that own these critters. The Packard Motor Car Company had it right with their motto, "Ask the man that owns one." Please keep the info coming. This is information that is not in the manuals you buy.



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soundguy

08-04-2008 11:12:13




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 Re: 1949 Allis Chalmers G in reply to Mitch in Tx., 08-04-2008 06:30:33  
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here's another pi after a couple months work and a few hundred dollars in parts, and alot of sweat and skinned knuckles.

soundguy



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Mitch in Tx.

08-04-2008 12:48:54




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 Re: 1949 Allis Chalmers G in reply to soundguy, 08-04-2008 11:12:13  
Thanks for the pictures. The help is SO VERY APPRECIATED. Please keep it coming men of orange.



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soundguy

08-04-2008 11:09:45




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 Re: 1949 Allis Chalmers G in reply to Mitch in Tx., 08-04-2008 06:30:33  
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For that $$ I'd want hyds AND the belt pulley.. breferably good brakes too.. as to change the brakes is a bit of a chore..

Here's one I picked up for about 2600$.. it's a 49, had no sheet metal, but does have hyds and a belt pulley.

Soundguy

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Texas Denny

08-04-2008 10:15:21




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 Re: 1949 Allis Chalmers G in reply to Mitch in Tx., 08-04-2008 06:30:33  
Mitch, your email address didn't work. I got my email to you back. Send me another email. Thanks,



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Mitch in Tx.

08-04-2008 09:15:53




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 Re: 1949 Allis Chalmers G in reply to Mitch in Tx., 08-04-2008 06:30:33  
Hey Neighbor, I'm just up the road at Brady. Thanks for your response. Do you mind giving me a call? Mitch (325) 597 2222.



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Texas Denny

08-04-2008 07:42:34




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 Re: 1949 Allis Chalmers G in reply to Mitch in Tx., 08-04-2008 06:30:33  
Well, If I were to pay $3500, I'd expect it to be near perfect! I bought mine in January 2002 for $2000. I thought that was a pretty fair price at the time. Since then, I've seen lots sell for this or less. And I've seen them sell for a good bit more but in better shape than mine was. Mine needed paint - I did that. And the engine was hard starting - low compression. A rebuild cost me about $180. Now it looks great and starts and runs to match.

When I've seen them go for up to $3500, they included an array of implements. The G mounted implements are often selling for $200 to $400 a piece!

What to look for? Well, you need to be there when it is first started after setting for a few days. If compression is bad, it will start hard in that situation. The standard transmission has 3 forward and 1 reverse. But many had the option of a creeper gear. The casting won't show this gear on the pattern. Mine has it but I didn't know it for a couple of years! It is a bit to hard to find in the shift pattern. The creeper isn't especially useful but it is nice to have. And the gears should be quiet - all of them. Steering should be smooth with minimum amount of sloop. Tires should be serviceable (for $3500, they should be new). It is a plus to have hydraulics. I think hydraulics were an option in later years but most G's were made in the first two or three years (1949 and 1950 - mine's an early 1949).

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redcolt

08-23-2008 06:50:21




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 Re: 1949 Allis Chalmers G in reply to Texas Denny, 08-04-2008 07:42:34  
hey that creeper gear you are talking about just where is it in the shift pattern. i asked the guy that i bought my dad's g from and he had heard of the "creeper gear" but didn't know where it was in the pattern or where to even look for it



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Texas Denny

08-26-2008 10:56:14




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 Re: 1949 Allis Chalmers G in reply to redcolt, 08-23-2008 06:50:21  
I is forward and right. There are three gears in the forward direction. Can't remember the third gear but creaper is either tight forward or right center. It isn't easy to find and not much slower than low - at least on mine.



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