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dave wilken

07-17-2008 08:04:04

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i bought a wd wide front end. wanted to put it on my wd. it says 3 bolt though, i thought they were all 4 bolt. did i screw up-dave in ohio

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BDT in Minnesota

07-17-2008 12:58:18

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 Re: wd front end switch in reply to dave wilken, 07-17-2008 08:04:04  
JMS/.MN and David have donated some good, helpful info....The four bolt front plate that is referred to on these front ends was an improvement that took place during later 1954 WD45 production, and was used on gas and diesel models alike....The three bolt front end is even "politically correct" for your WD...

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David Grubb

07-17-2008 11:38:20

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 Re: wd front end switch in reply to dave wilken, 07-17-2008 08:04:04  
Secure the rear wheels from rotating. Install a jack and stand unit under the right frame rail just aft of the engine cross member support. Loosen all of the left side frame rail bolts at the rear end,engine,and remove the steering casting bolts and the left bolt in the front support for the engine. Disconnect the steering shaft at the aft side of the steering gearbox. Remove the right side steering gearbox bolts. Work the gear box loose and forward until it is out of the frame rails. Check and clean the mounting holes for the new steering gearbox and slide it in position. When reinstalling the engine cross member support the shims between the support and the engine should be clearance plus .010". You can loosen the right frame rail but you will cause your hydraulic fluid to leak out around the seal between the frame rail and the housing. Correct shimming of the engine front cross member is important. You will like the handling of your new tractor when you are finished. I read somewhere that the 4 bolt front ends came out with diesel models due to the heavier engine.

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07-17-2008 08:31:09

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 Re: wd front end switch in reply to dave wilken, 07-17-2008 08:04:04  
They interchange- three or four bolt refers to the number of bolts in the plate at the front of the unit. Plate and steering sector casting must match. Four bolt is newer. Entire units can be switched.

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dave wilken

07-17-2008 09:38:54

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 Re: wd front end switch in reply to JMS/.MN, 07-17-2008 08:31:09  
excellent- my plan was to drop the trike off all in one piece and then see what it takes to get the widefront on. not much of a mechanic but i think i'll figure it out. will the tires be ok too? dave

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07-18-2008 09:16:22

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 Re: wd front end switch in reply to dave wilken, 07-17-2008 09:38:54  
Eight bolts and a pin through the steering knuckle are all that hold it in. Might need to loosen a side rail and take out one bolt on the engine front support (one that goes through the side rail you loosen). Also remove the radiator bolt on that rail- reach underneath, up inside the rail, need a 3/4 inch socket. Wheels are the same on either type of axle.

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07-18-2008 16:13:24

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 Re: wd front end switch in reply to JMS/.MN, 07-18-2008 09:16:22  
thanks- you folks are great!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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07-18-2008 17:12:31

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 Re: wd front end switch in reply to dwilken, 07-18-2008 16:13:24  
BTW- when I referred to loosening a side rail- I meant the left one- if you loosen the right one you may have issues with oil leaking at the belt pulley. Might not need to loosen one- just depends if you can wiggle the steering sector casting out easily. Just maker sure you support the tractor with good cribbing or a hoist, so it does not fall on you. Getting the WF in between the channels is a challenge, can only lighten it up so much, and it likes to rotate on you. Consider splitting the unit- the casting away from the axle and wheels- makes it much easier to handle. Done several by myself, would be easier with an army.

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