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Case 430?

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Orlander

06-14-2008 07:23:37




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I have a Case Tractor I"m going to restore to service. From pictures I"ve seen on the net, I think it is an early model 430 (probably 1960 to 1961) 148 gas four cylinder. It has power steering and a front loader that has a removable panel to expose two forks, probably for hay bales. The model plate is long gone from the side of the instrument panel. There is what I think is an engine casting number "A161". It has a generator (not an alternator) and a 12 volt battery (which appears to be an antique itself). It has what appears to be a vertically hand-stamped number on a slightly raised flat casting toward the rear of the engine that has the numbers 343 stamped together, slightly before and above a lower number which appears to be the letter "T" followed by the numbers 04684. Anybody help me with figuring out what model this is?

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VACLee

06-14-2008 10:37:59




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 Re: Case 430? in reply to Orlander, 06-14-2008 07:23:37  
Does it have seperate guages or one unit? The 430 series and the 200B were the only only ones with seperate guages until you get into the later years of the 30 series. Both had the clam shell fenders. The others had fenders that came down in the front to connect with the floorboard. The 430 will not have the cover for the belt pulley on the right side of the torque tube. The 200 will. The 430 will have an oil filter on the lower right side of the engine, the 200 will be behind the distributor. 430 has black and silver decal on side of hood 200 will have crome strip with diecast emblem. There are several other differances but this should be enough to tell which it is. If it has the one piece guage unit it would be either a 300B or 530. I am assuming that it has a clutch instead of the Case-O-Matic. If you need more info send me an email.

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Orlander

06-14-2008 15:34:49




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 Re: Case 430? in reply to VACLee, 06-14-2008 10:37:59  
It does have all the guages under a single glass surrounded by a chrome piece, so it may be the 300B or 530 based on what VACLee stated. It states "tripl-range drive" which is the only other writing on the engine cover. The oil filter is vertically mounted on a horizontal base in front of the distributor and below the generator. I think it has a clutch and not the case-o-matic. Does anyone have any idea what the vertical stamped numbers and letter mean? "343" and then a little below and slightly further to the rear of the engine on the stamping surface: "T04684." Thanks for any help. I really appreciate it.

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jheitkemper

06-14-2008 11:39:24




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 Re: Case 430? in reply to VACLee, 06-14-2008 10:37:59  
The 430 is a fine tractor ,, Mine is a hybrid 67 Diesel motor that is bolted to an early 60s rearend with triple range ,,the torque tube does have a cover on the right side for a belt pulley ,, I am guessing it to be from a donar 200 ,300 ,430 , 530,or 630 , got the tractor cheap because it kept locking up the starter gear ,,turned out the previous owner had the wrong gear for starter drive,, Works fine Now ,, best of luck To all of You ,, And btw ,the Case forum guys will be happy to help with any questions ,, Jim

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VACLee

06-14-2008 15:32:10




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 Re: Case 430? in reply to jheitkemper, 06-14-2008 11:39:24  
One thing for sure. You never say never. My guess is the first 430's were probably made with some left over hundred series parts. If yours has a three bolt starter it would have to be for the 30 series I think. I am pretty sure the 350/500 had the same bolt pattern as the 188, but they used a 2 bolt starter. If you are curious about the torque tube if you will give me the # on the left side near the clutch pedal, I will look it up for you. It should be 5 digits with the first one being a G. I have parts books for most of the smaller series.

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