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Re: How much can I legally haul


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Posted by JimEvans on January 25, 2011 at 10:34:43 from (204.54.36.245):

In Reply to: How much can I legally haul posted by larryanderson on January 21, 2011 at 14:15:11:

Just so everyone is clear:

There is a GVWR on the truck. That comes from the manufacturer. A 1 ton dually is probably going to be from 10,500 to 13,500 lbs.

There is a GVWR on the trailer. This comes from the manufacturer. For a typical single tire gooseneck, that is 14,000 lbs or a little more. For a dually gooseneck, that is probably 20,000 lbs

For CDL requirements, if GVWR on the trailer + GVWR on the truck must be under 26,000 lbs if you want to avoid the CDL.

There is a GCVWR from the truck manufacturer. That is the total weight the combo can be for towing. For most 1 ton duallys, with a fifth wheel or gooseneck setup, that number is less than 23,000 lbs. The Iowa DOT could care less about this number. It is not on your registration, it is only in the sales literature for the truck. I have heard that at least some Canadian provinces care about this number.

In Iowa, you license your truck for the combo weight you wish to pull. The minimum license is 3 ton. My S-10 is 3 ton. Most 1 tons trucks in Iowa are also licensed as 3 ton (illegal since they weigh 4 ton empty). If you want to be legal to haul 25,999 lbs without a CDL, you need a 13 ton license on your pickup.

Here is where it gets goofy: Because of the laws, I cannot legally pull a empty 20,000 lb GVWR trailer with my dually and no CDL. However, I can pull it legally with my S10, since its GVWR is less than 6000. All I need is a 4 ton license on the S10.

I also can not buy a bigger trailer than necessary (for the extra factor of safety) because then I need a CDL. For example: I want to haul a 10,000 lb tractor on my 4000 lb trailer with my 8000 lb truck. Total weight is 22,000 lbs so no CDL necessary. All I need is a 11 ton license on my truck. But the 14,000 GVW trailer is right at the weight limit, but the DOT doesn't care because I am licensed legally. If I put the same tractor on a 20,000 GVW trailer, I now need a CDL, even though the entire rig is now much safer to go down the road.


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