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Re: hydraulic oil


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Posted by TheOldHokie on July 29, 2009 at 16:32:41 from (96.236.83.235):

In Reply to: hydraulic oil posted by Bruce (VA) on July 29, 2009 at 14:06:50:


Dunk said: (quoted from post at 18:36:07 07/29/09)
TheOldHokie said: (quoted from post at 19:32:58 07/29/09)
brian70ss said: (quoted from post at 17:56:52 07/29/09) Well I guess my question really is on the back of the bucket it says the 303 premium transmission and hydraulic fluid may be used where these man. part numbers are used. Under the ford/nh listing it says it is equivelent to

ESN-M2C,134B, C. So I thought that the m2c-134b meant that it would be ok to use. I am asking advice because I am new to this. And wanting to make sure I understand properly. I cant afford to tear something up right now. Brian


If it's suitable for use where M2C-134x is specified it is fine.

TOH


I don't think I would use it.

Its viscosity is comparable to a 10W/20 fluid. It is formulated to provide the desired performance in various pieces of equipment, including the following:

NEW HOLLAND (Ford)

ESN-M2C-86-A

ESN-M2C-134-A

ESN-M2C-134-B

ESN-M2C-134-C

ESN-M2C-134-D

ESN-M2C-77-A

ESN-M2C-41-A

More:

http://www.texasrefinery.com/lb-special303.htm

But then I don't know, and I have used GL-5, and I now have about half GL-1 and GL-5.

10W/20 fluid seems awful light.....


Dunk noted: "Its viscosity is comparable to a 10W/20 fluid".

That sentence illustrates the confusion the SAE system has produced. There is no such thing as a 10w20 fluid. Those numbers are grade numbers that only apply to MOTOR OIL. But people throw them around willy nilly and use them as a generic measure of viscosity when in fact they are not. For example:

The New Holland M2C-134D is a SAE 10W20 weight oil.

The New Holland M2C-134D is also an SAE 80 weight oil.

Strangely enough both statements are "true" if we are going to allow that sort of casual usage. That's because a grade SAE 80 gear oil and an SAE grade 20 motor oil HAVE THE SAME VISCOSITY. Sorry Dunk - wasn't shouting at you - it's simply my frustration with the confusion and misunderstanding this system creates. The SAE viscosity requirement of a SAE 20 grade motor oil is anything in the range 5.6-9.3 cSt. The SAE viscosity requirement for SAE 80 grade gear oil is 7.0 - 10.9 cSt

And all the 10W part means is it has a very high viscosity index and doesn't get thick as molasses when it gets cold - as in near freezing.

It is by all appearances a generic UTF and should work just fine.

TOH

This post was edited by TheOldHokie at 16:49:15 07/29/09 2 times.



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