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Re: 165 hydraulics question(s)


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Posted by MT in PA on March 06, 2013 at 06:40:02 from (74.212.1.66):

In Reply to: Re: 165 hydraulics question(s) posted by Stick welding on March 05, 2013 at 22:05:06:

Stick welding

You have the configuration correct.

After the adjustment this is the way that it is working though. To clarity. The Position Level is acting as a high position stop and the Draft Level is acting as if geared to the arms. If the position lever is in full up and I move the draft from mid-point to up, the arms follow the draft lever. To make them go down I have to move the lever forward (dumping the pressure I assume). Constant pumping does not seem to change anything. That does not seem correct to me either but this is my first tractor so I don’t know anything for sure.

In as far as the valves, when I received the tractor last spring there was no reaction from Draft or Position control. The only way to operate the arms was with the valve. Holding the valve back until the arms were in the desired position, moving back to the center when they were where I wanted them. I would disconnect the loader hoses before doing this. The loader is a QD type and the plumbing from the valve runs to the QD lines. When I wanted to use the loader I’d connect the hoses and move the lever to forward. When I would operate the loader valves the arms would move to the full up position before the loader (bucket or arms) would mover.
In an attempt to fix this issue I moved the hoses from the outside valve to the inside valve. That allowed the loader to work without the arms moving, so I left the plumbing that way.

Now after making the sync. Adjustment I am back to the same condition but now I have some reaction out of Draft and Position control (although it may not be acting correctly)

You are saying that the inside valve is internally plumbed. Is the inside valve supposed to be isolated from the outside valve? I get the feeling that there is some kind of port or leak connecting both valves. When I have the lever in the loader position and arrive at the max position on any hydraulic tool the valve pops back to the center as if something is back feeding the valve….In some way the 3pt and the remote loader are hydraulically connected at the same time no matter the valve position. That is why I think maybe the valves need to be re sealed?

Thanks for all the help. I really do appreciate the advice. I’m usually pretty good with this kind of thing but this one has me stumped. Too many variables..

I’ll try and load pics tonight if you think it will help.

Maybe video over the weekend if no one has a solution before then.

Thanks again, Mike…


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