At that time here nobody droped the corn planter in the ground untill May 15 and would be planting up to the first of June. When the binders were designed the normal yield was about 75 bu per acre, when we quit using the binder yield was around 100-125 bu per acre, I don't think a binder would make it thru 200 bu per acre corn. But then corn was all in 40 or 42" rows with stalks ranging from 2 to 4 stalks per hill in checked corn, (quit checking probably in the 40"s when got tractor cultivator,1944, to young at that time to know anything, was less than a year old when Dad got the first tractor cultivator) to about a foot apart in drilled corn so there were not as many plants together in a row, and when the binders came out they were all horse drawn, I have never seen a pto powered binder but later they were that way. So on the horse drawn ones there was the seat for the operator to ride on and so they would not have to carry the bundles as far they would let the bundle carrier acluminate for about 15 feet, the distance between shocks and the operator would press a pedal when ever he wanted to unload for the shock. When they started to pull them with a tractor it would have required an extra operator to do that so for the most part they were wired into the position that kept the carrier going all the time even tho it ment carrying that bundle the extra 5' to the shock. To try to answer some questions I do not know if you are in an area that hay was stacked outside or not but here we always had to keep it in a dry barn otherwise it would spoil, nobody left it outside till the big round balers and by spring the bales were rotted down in a pile having fallen apart. Now if you could keep hay in a barn for 5 years then you also could have kept the foder that long as well but nobody had that much storage or acreage to get a second year on hand so most was only kept till spring and you were out of feed. And hoped you got a crop in the spring-summer for the next winter. Our barn had two mows, one floor level that was used for the hay and a second overhead mow that a third to half was used for straw for bedding, the other part was filled with the shreader fodder. The cow stable was a lean to on the back of the barn and the barn side was a manger and in evening would fill that manger with the fodder, what was left the next morning was put out for beddeing and if not enough finnished with straw, then that morning the manger was filled with hay and that was usually gone by evening feeding as you would not put out anymore than needed and you would bed in the evening with straw. Would always use a wood prong fork for handling the fodder as it would not go into the leaves-stalks like the steel prong would and by that would not have to pull some off the tines at every fork full. At that time you also milked in the loafing shed, no seperate parlors. When we quit using the binder that I just sold and is still in working condition that my Mothers Dad bought new in about 1937 and he sold it to my Fathers Dad in 1946 we had just picked up some more ground and had more hay and the barn was full so we did not need the fodder for feed and hay kept a rotation going and was less work. The binder and shreader were kept so that if we would have been short of hay we still would have if we had any corn crop would have had feed for the cows. What corn that was not cut for shreading was picked with a 1 row pull type corn picker and cribed. At the end I was doing the evening feeding of the foder but I was still in school at that time. So both Dad and I when I could worked on things. I have to pull out both the binder, a John Deere and New Idea shreader to take them up to the Amish that I have been furnishing steel wheel machinery to for a few years where they will be put back in use this fall. They also made an attachment but have never seen one for cutting soybeans that were put in rows for putting the beans in the silo. At 69 years I am pretty much retired, what farm I have left is rented out, and I work as I feel like it on rebuilding the machinery for the Amish, last year I did 12 hay rakes, 2 horse mowers and a 2 row planter. But my health does not allow me to work hard or much at a time with heart problems. Have Amish friends that have McCormic corn binders but I cannot tell you about the bundle drive but if you would want I could coppy a couple of pages out of the operators manual for this Deere binder that you could see what the bundle carrier, wagon loader and soybean attachment looked like. But for that I would need your snail mail address as I have no Idea how to put a picture with an email. With the older computors and scanners and camaras wife could do it but not with the newer equipment. More questions? And we got rid of the dairy cows in 1980. Lester
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