Frozen Clutch

John Schmincke · Sep 29, 2012

Starter was removed last night. I can see the flywheel and part of the clutch. Anyone have a engine crank they might like to sell? Im going to try Olds suggestion of spraying the clutch with brake cleaner. I have no way at the moment to pull the tractor so I tried rocking it back and forth to see if the clutch would break free...battery wasnt strong enough to start it in gear so any suggestions while the starter is off would be helpful.
Have a nice weekend.

sHan tn · Sep 29, 2012

i dont know about the brake cleaner, if i rember right brake cleaner will eat away and sofen the clutch facing, i would try some wd40 first.. wen you get it loose the wd40 would burn off the clutch with out much harm that i could think of, ive unstuck some by jacking one wheel up and hand snaping it back and forth...

old · Sep 29, 2012

NO on the WD40 it is a lube of sorts and will cause more problems and not help one bit. Brake cleaner is the only thing to use

old · Sep 29, 2012

Any hand crank that has the T on the end will work if long enough but that said if the fan belt is as tight as it should be you can turn the engine with the fan blades I do it all the time. To make it a lot easier remove the plugs that way it will have no compression to worry about holding it back from rotating. Also charge up that battery. DO NOT use WD40 like the other guy said or you will be splitting the tractor and replacing the clutch

John Schmincke · Sep 29, 2012

Guys...Guys...have a beer on me. I'm using break cleaner, just picked it up at Napa. The gear on the starter seems free enough. Dont know why most times the starter freewheels but the gear doesnt come to the flywheel. Gotta bump the starter many times to get the gear to engage. Thats what takes the battery down after a while. Well, while the starter & genny are out, the battery is up and on a trickle charger.

sHan tn · Sep 29, 2012

well you do as you please and i hope things work out for you, IF you want to learn any more about it do a Google search for "brake fluid damage clutch disk" and read up....

good luck

John Schmincke · Sep 29, 2012

Hell, I dont know but I have a CNC router that I use WD40 on when I wipe the guide rails to clean, lubricate everything on the XYZ axis. WD40 is a lubricant. Seems to me a oil product and a clutch just dont go well together. Again I am no expert or I wouldnt be asking questions. Break cleaner gets in there, cleans and dries...makes sense to me. Besides, I dont use my tractor very much. It might take me months if not years to burn the WD40 off if thats possible. As mentioned though, I do appreciate your input.

John Schmincke · Sep 29, 2012

Okay, I just caught another idea you mentioned just to show you how behind I am with this tractor. You mentioned jacking it up and hand snapping it loose. Last night I was rocking it back and forth trying that same thing but that was moving the whole tractor. Well, I ran out of gas pretty quick after a 3 or 4 sessions. I will try what you mentioned though...thanks!

old · Sep 29, 2012

Spray the bendex with brake cleaner also and that may help with the problem your having with it since if it has a lot of old oil on it they will hang up and not engage like it should

John Schmincke · Sep 29, 2012

Okay. I'll see about that but meanwhile, I think I'll have the starter checked over by the pros while I redo the genny and try to free up the clutch. i'm selling a few guns as I feel this winter will bring more snow than expected...need snow chains just in case....

old · Sep 29, 2012

NO ONE says to use BRAKE fluid you use BRAKE CLEANER spray Not brake fluid best read what is said not what you think your reading. WD40 is a lube and a lube and a clutch does not mix unless it is a wet clutch please read before you say things. I said brake cleaner spray which is made to clean brakes and other such stuff and leaves no residue behind and drys clean but does a good job of removing oils brake fluid and other such things that cause problems

old · Sep 29, 2012

BRAKE cleaner spray i made to clean grease oil and other such things and WILL NOT hurt a clutch disk in any way shape or form. NOTE BRAKE CLEANER SPRAY read the can some time it is also good for cleaning electrical stuff

sHan tn · Sep 30, 2012

OK it looks like i made a big mistake!!!! wont be the first im sure it wont be the last.. i READ the post as BRAKE FLUID not brake clean,,,, yes brake clean if safe for clutch and brake pads...

NOW the rest of the story..... i was reading TWO different web sites with one having a story on using brake FLUID to eat rust and crud as a solvent, for out in the field/woods... (and i dont agree with this either)

THEN i cam here and read this post... seen brake cleaner and instantly confused the two sites... so i would like to apoligise to OLD for dragging this out

shan

John Schmincke · Sep 30, 2012

Another thing is with the tractor up on a jack, you can turn a rear wheel but snapping the clutch is not doable. The other wheel just turns in the opposite direction. I read about this a few years ago and forgot obviously....even after installing snow chains on my IH for 30 winters and being away from tractors alltogether for 6 years. GEEES!

sHan tn · Sep 30, 2012

i only lift 1 wheel leave the other on the ground to make traction so the power goes to the tractor transmission..

John Schmincke · Sep 30, 2012

Yea? I'll give it a try. When I started jacking it up one wheel was free before the other but seemed to not want to turn much like dragging but this time I'll go under the fender bracket instead of the middle. I'm talking myself into a new clutch though. I read on another forum a guy had same issue, finally broke down and put a new one in. Was very happy with it afterwards. Same as I felt when I installed a new gas tank. Seemed the old tank was self generating rust faster that I could clean it out. Bottom line-problem solved.

John Schmincke · Sep 30, 2012

I see the cleaner going in and running out the cotter pin hole. Isn't giving me a warm fuzzy feeling that I'm accomplishing much.

John Schmincke · Sep 30, 2012

Okay, this is better. One rear wheel up and it turns the engine nicely. I hear a snapping sound from within. Would that be the fork bouncing back and forth as I snap the wheel into the opposite direction? My guess is the fork is free since the clutch is stuck in or out. Cant picture the thing at the moment.

sHan tn · Sep 30, 2012

i dont know what the noise would be, do you have the clutch pedal pushed in when you are trying to break it loose? that way it wold help pop it loose

John Schmincke · Sep 30, 2012

Yes, the clutch is held down by a cinder block. Sherman in lo, trans in 3rd, plugs out of the engine and some oil squirted down the cylinders so the pistons can cycle more freely. Works very nice. I placed a mirror to watch the flywheel spin so I could determine when to shoot more cleaner in the hole. Turning the rear wheel slowly lets the solution distribute itself more evenly without running out of the cotter pin hole. Gives me the impression I'm getting maximum use from each spray. I found a flat area in the driveway right behind the house where I think I will split the tractor if needed. Hoping it does'nt go that far but will welcome the end results if I can get it done B4 the snows arrive.

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