Adirondack case guy
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Hey Guys,
Thanks for the contributions over on TT about the 800's
BUT, the fact is that the 800B was not a 16 speed. It was an 8 speed with a Torque converter backup. In Direct drive the converter input turbine and output turbines are locked together with a hyd clutch pack. In converter drive the input turbine, connected to the engine flywheel, drives the output turbine with oil, so the output rpms of the converter are always changing in relation to the resistance from the transmission. As the difference in input rpm related to output rpm ramp up so does the output torque, until the converter can no longer turn the tranny input shaft. The Case converter was capable of multiplying max engine torque under converter max load by 3.14 times. For an example, lets say the engine has been pulled down to 1800rpms, and is delivering 300lbs.ft of torque which is spinning the unput turbine at 1800rpms. The output shaft from the converter has stalled, (tractor is no longer moving in the selected gear) at that point the tranny input shaft is being supplied with 942 lbs. ft. of torque with zero revs., thus ground speed is infinate betewwn 0 and max per gear selected. When in direct drive max engine torque is all that can be delivered to the trans. input shaft.
The PTO is a solid drive link from the engine flywheel to the PTO clutch pack, When engaged the pto can consume all the power it needs, and as it sifons off that power the engine rpms drop, as does the engine torque, and thus converter output drops slowing output rpm and torque, thus adjusting speed to the PTO load automatically. The only downfall of the COM was heat buildup when under continuous load in converter drive, Dropping to a lower gear and using Direct Drive, droping down to converter drive, only in tough spots, would eliminate the heat buildup. To sum up this design, it was an 8spd with infinate speeds and torque from about 17mph., down to 0mph.
Loren
Thanks for the contributions over on TT about the 800's
BUT, the fact is that the 800B was not a 16 speed. It was an 8 speed with a Torque converter backup. In Direct drive the converter input turbine and output turbines are locked together with a hyd clutch pack. In converter drive the input turbine, connected to the engine flywheel, drives the output turbine with oil, so the output rpms of the converter are always changing in relation to the resistance from the transmission. As the difference in input rpm related to output rpm ramp up so does the output torque, until the converter can no longer turn the tranny input shaft. The Case converter was capable of multiplying max engine torque under converter max load by 3.14 times. For an example, lets say the engine has been pulled down to 1800rpms, and is delivering 300lbs.ft of torque which is spinning the unput turbine at 1800rpms. The output shaft from the converter has stalled, (tractor is no longer moving in the selected gear) at that point the tranny input shaft is being supplied with 942 lbs. ft. of torque with zero revs., thus ground speed is infinate betewwn 0 and max per gear selected. When in direct drive max engine torque is all that can be delivered to the trans. input shaft.
The PTO is a solid drive link from the engine flywheel to the PTO clutch pack, When engaged the pto can consume all the power it needs, and as it sifons off that power the engine rpms drop, as does the engine torque, and thus converter output drops slowing output rpm and torque, thus adjusting speed to the PTO load automatically. The only downfall of the COM was heat buildup when under continuous load in converter drive, Dropping to a lower gear and using Direct Drive, droping down to converter drive, only in tough spots, would eliminate the heat buildup. To sum up this design, it was an 8spd with infinate speeds and torque from about 17mph., down to 0mph.
Loren