hesston 5800

I was just given a hesston 5800 round baler the problem is that it won't start a bale. the previous owner would grab the belts and pull trying to get it going once there was some hay in the chamber? said he had to do it for every bale to get it going but sometimes even then it would not work he finally got so frustrated he said he was going to take a torch to it i told him id take it so he gave it to me. where should i start or should i take a torch to it like he was going to do
 
Check to see if the pickup bars, where the teeth bolt to, are bent.
If they are bent, stand to the left of the baler, as you face the
front of it, and look at the row of teeth. If the teeth are not in a
straight line, but look like a parenthesis symbol ) ) ) the bars are
bent. you can un-bend them by hinging up the door, locking
the safties, and hooking a come-a-long to the bars, and
bending them back to straight. Also there is what I call a pickup
flapper bar, in the bale chamber that might bend, or freeze in
place, check that it rotates, and is straight. Watch out the
bugger is sharp. Also, if the belts are really old and smooth, you
will have problems, and starting bales can be easier, if the first
bite of hay you feed into the baler, is made, by going across a
big windrow, at a right angle to the windrow. Also, the manual
covers all of this, plus can tell you which way to feed hay in,
butts in first or heads in first. Believe it or not it makes a
difference.
 
if this is a belt baler ur belt may be bad as far as gripping is concerned we had a jd 535 and it got to where is wouldnt start a bale bput 2 new belts on one side and it started a bale everytime and the other side wouldnt --
 
ran a 5800 for years they take some getting used to . the belts don't start till chamber is full.
zig zag windrow to fill the chamber.this may take more than you think. make sure side arms are free and going to the top position
 
Could be that your belts are too long, I parked my old 5800 a couple of years ago, having bought it second hand 27 years back.
I recall that if your rubber rollers were worn out, or if the belts were too long, it wouldn't start to turn.
*Also,*:
check that the keys are in all the keyways on those four bottom rollers!! (The rollers the bale sits on) If one of those falls out, the botton rollers won't turn, and then it's nearly impossible to start a bale! I've had that happen more than once with mine.

Have parts or the whole baler if anyone needs it, but live up in Alberta.
 
I owned one years back. Take my advice and get a open throat baler. I am probably several years older because of the pressure roller and getting a bale started. It would make good junk iron and that would be all it is worth now. I would quit baling hay if I had to go back to a 5800.
 
I too used to run a 5800. Ran 10's of thousands of bales thru it.
If your belts are not turning when you engage your pto, that is your first problem. Those belts have to turn.
Like others have said, weave side to side when starting the bale. The biggest secret to running a 5800 is to work on the end of the bale, keep them flat and level and the center will take care of it's self.
Those old balers do take some getting use to, but once you figure them out, they are good balers.
 

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