1865 oliver production

Does anyone have any idea how many 1865 olivers were made? The one that sold for $ 17,100 on Ebay last night sold well I thought.
 
They couldn"t have been made for one year, they made about 10 or so bubble noses, and the rest are flat noses.
 
I saw the comment on the bottom of the Ebay listing that said there was only 9 built. I think i know of almost that many myself! You can look up 1865 pics on google and see that many! I would hate to think someones false information made a difference in the market value of these tractors. If you look at the bid history of that Ebay auction you can see that the bids went from 11-12K to $17,000 in one bid at the last second! Sounds like a sniper came in at the last minute hedging that the other guys bid wasnt that high, seems like 5000 is quite a jump! That and the last bidder wasnt even one that had bid before.

Dont get me wrong, if whomever got that tractor is on here, congrats! You got a heck of a tractor! but hopefully the false info at the bottom of the listing didnt sway your bids... iirc there was around 60 made or so. For two years.
 
(quoted from post at 20:03:02 12/03/12) Paperwork dad got from the museum on his red 1865 LP says that MM made 1002 G950's, of those 168 were LP, and 61 were badged 1865.



According to Brian Gonyea who researches the MM's, he says that there were only 9 bubble nose 1865's built and then 48 flat nose models built for a total of 57. They were built from 1971 till june of 1972. I own one of the 9 bubble nose tractors. From what Brian told me there were no LP 1865's according to his research but that does not make it impossible. I'm sure he would be very interested to know the info about there being 61 1865 lp's.

If you read what was at the bottom of the ebay listing it clearly states that only 9 of the 1865's built have been accounted for by serial number. It said nothing about only 9 being made.
Here it is from the listing:

On Nov-28-12 at 18:03:27 PST, seller added the following information:

I recieve so many emails on the 1865 i haven't been able to answer them all, but I thought this one was very interesting.This is when I posted the serial number " I have a friend who documents and researches MM tractor production and he would love to know what your serial number is to verify its existence. With these tractors being so low production he has only been able to account for about 9 of them. Thanks"

Here is a pic of mine. It is the 7th built. If you search 1865 in the MM forum I have a couple posts of my tearing into it.
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