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#1 is 100 psi dry and 110+ wet.

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Rob

01-05-2002 13:03:27

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#2 is 75/90 #3 and #4 are 90 (if I close one eye, hold the gage at an angle in the sun, and squint through the other eye it looks like 90) and 110.
So whadda ya think! #1's been rebuilt, #3 & #4 need rings, and #2 need rings and valve work? I was hoping I didn't have to mess with valves. I think this block doesn't have an intake valve insert. 9N133845.
Hey, it starts with ether at 10 degrees too! Smokes to much. Fouls plugs. Oh well.

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Question........dave#1

01-05-2002 16:56:04

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Re: #1 is 100 psi dry and 110+ wet. in reply to Rob, 01-05-2002 13:03:27

Why would you or someone rebuild just one cylinder ????? ??? Pistons,rings,valves and guides for a N series engine are "Inexpensive" to buy.

later,dave

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Rob

01-05-2002 18:23:56

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Re: Re: #1 is 100 psi dry and 110+ wet. in reply to Question........dave#1, 01-05-2002 16:56:04

If a piston failed in an otherwise good engine then a guy may repair the damage only. Maybe the sleave failed. Personally, for the hours I run this tractor if I went through the engine I would only replace the parts that didn't meet the spec. I don't run it a full day every week much less daily for weeks at a time like they were designed to work. I wouldn't do a kit overhaul unless the engine needed it. This engine may need it! Did I say it had low oil pressure. If the bearings are in spec and the pump is worn then I'll repair the pump or vice versa.

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I disagree.....dave#1

01-06-2002 06:43:17

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Re: Re: Re: #1 is 100 psi dry and 110+ wet. in reply to Rob, 01-05-2002 18:23:56

It sounds like this guy did just what you said and only replaced the parts that didn't meet the specs. by replaceing only the sleeve and/or piston/rings in the #1 cylinder, and look at it now?, the #1 Cylinder is working great and the rest of the engine has now taken a "Crap"-ie, time to fix it "Again" Now we need to compare apples to apples, this is a flat head 4 cylinder N series engine, not a "Dell BMW" engine, ka-zillions of these were made, oem and aftermarket parts are everywhere and are relatively inexspenive. I don't know about you but I like to fix something right "ONCE" and have it last for years instead of chaseing the repair around for years to come ! (-:

later,dave

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Ed Gooding (VA)

01-06-2002 07:18:29

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Re: Re: Re: Re: #1 is 100 psi dry and 110+ wet. in reply to I disagree.....dave#1, 01-06-2002 06:43:17

Hey, lighten up Dave#Coors! It's obvious that ole Rob has some kind of phobia about buying parts, so my recommendation would be to purchase a tube of good ole Repair Gel. That would solve his problem and he would not have to buy any parts from anybody!!

ROFL..... ..Ed
'52 8N475798

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Phobia? Cheap and lazy maybe. Rob

01-06-2002 09:28:00

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Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: #1 is 100 psi dry and 110+ wet. in reply to Ed Gooding (VA), 01-06-2002 07:18:29

Did I tell ya about that head gasket that put a big ol nick in the top of the piston in my tbird? Checked the clearence and left the piston in there. Too much work to get it out. How bout that $2.73 1/4x20 steel brake line I just put in to replace the fuel line? Packed it full of table salt, taped the ends shut, and bent it around a piece of 1" galv pipe! No kinks, tight bends, straight runs, it's pretty. :-)

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dave#1

01-06-2002 12:15:31

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Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: #1 is 100 psi dry and 110+ wet. in reply to Phobia? Cheap and lazy maybe. Rob, 01-06-2002 09:28:00

"Did I tell ya about that head gasket that put a big ol nick in the top of the piston in my tbird? "

No. and I can't say I want to hear about it either ! LOL

"How bout that $2.73 1/4x20 steel brake line I just put in to replace the fuel line? Packed it full of table salt, taped the ends shut, and bent it around a piece of 1" galv pipe! No kinks, tight bends"

I would of thought with all the money you saved with replaceing just one piston you would have bought a 10 dollar tubeing bender like the rest of the world ! LOL
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later"belch" dave

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Rob

01-06-2002 12:59:10

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Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: #1 is 100 psi dry and 110+ wet. in reply to T�l�r (M�), 01-06-2002 12:19:23

Get a grip belch-dave. I didn't replace just one piston, I didn't replace any piston. I saved enough on the fuel line to buy that $10 bender though! Don's got the fuel line for $20.
I'm going to drop the oil pan and if the bearings are within spec they stay. If they are near the wear limits I might replace 'em. Same for the oil pump parts. Personally, I figure that's why the engineers give us the specs and wear limits. I don't need new but I want oil pressure. Either way I'll fix the tractor and it will outlive me.
If the last guy figured it that way then he was right!

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Frank Fox

01-06-2002 22:52:35

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Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: #1 is 100 psi dry and 110+ wet. in reply to Rob, 01-06-2002 12:59:10

Ifn you want oil pressure let me tell you how. I have owned my 1951 8N about three weeks. When i first started it the oil pressure gauge (80psi) would peg. I changed the oil and filter and filled the engine with 20/50 oil. Tractor sat for about 3 or 4 years or more before I purchased it. When I started it the oil pressure went over 80psi and kicked the oilfilter gasket out. Oil pressure about 50 psi when hot. Thought maybe it was stuck. The next day when I started it, it again kicked out the filter gasket. Today I removed the relief valve and found TWO not ONE but TWO # 10 nuts in the pocket in the plug, so--- when you screw in the plug it bottoms out the spring and volla 80, 90 or maybe 100PSI. With the nuts removed 45 to 50 psi when cold and 30 to 35 when hot. I will give you a good deal on the #10 nuts. Not recomended!!!!

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Rob

01-07-2002 04:14:24

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Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: #1 is 100 psi dry and 110+ wet. in reply to Frank Fox, 01-06-2002 22:52:35

Hey Frank. You know what? I'm going to put a nut or two in there today! I need oil pressure and the nuts might get me by 'til spring. I don't know. I have 35 psi cold. What do you think?

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Does Don sell those? nm

01-05-2002 18:35:30

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Re: Re: #1 is 100 psi dry and 110+ wet. in reply to Tyler (MD), 01-05-2002 13:52:22

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kevin

01-05-2002 14:04:49

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Re: Re: #1 is 100 psi dry and 110+ wet. in reply to Tyler (MD), 01-05-2002 13:52:22

Just wondering (in case I rebuild someday) do you need to run Ethanol fuel with those Coors aluminum pistons??

-kb

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Ed Gooding (VA)

01-06-2002 04:37:47

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Re: Re: Re: #1 is 100 psi dry and 110+ wet. in reply to kevin, 01-05-2002 14:04:49

Nahhhhh, with those pistons, it runs great on donkey p!ss.

LOL..... ...Ed
'52 8N475798

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