Corn growing question

34Case · Feb 1, 2023

I saw on puter news that Mexicos hikeing up their tariff rates for american corn causing concern among the big boys growing it here. One said that they couldnt go back to regular corn as there all set up for GMO corn. Said they didnt have the equipment for it.
QUESTION, Whats the diff between a stalk of GMO corn and one of, even OP corn?

rrlund · Feb 1, 2023

Between the stalk? Depends on the genetics, how many plants per acre, weather conditions, etc. If you're asking
about nutritional value in GM, no difference unless it's bred to be silage corn maybe.

34Case · Feb 1, 2023

(quoted from post at 14:48:09 02/01/23) Between the stalk? Depends on the genetics, how many plants per acre, weather conditions, etc. If you're asking
about nutritional value in GM, no difference unless it's bred to be silage corn maybe.

As I read it it sounded like the person said that their equipment that they used to harvest, and maybe even plant GMO corn would be unable to do that with regular hybred corn

rrlund · Feb 2, 2023

I don't know what you're referring to.

34Case · Feb 2, 2023

Im sorry, I dont see why what im saying confuses you.
As I understood it when the person was making the report to a reporter, AND, as an example of what I understood of the report, IF you planted a row of say DeKalb conventional hybred corn, and a row of GMO corn next to it, that todays farmers who plant ONLY GMO corn wouldnt be able to use their equipment to harvest the row of hybred corn.
Im just trying to figure out why a stalk of GMO corn would be different to pick than a stalk of hybred corn or even op corn. It seems Mexico dont want any GMO corn in their country. Likely stopping the buying of it is an excuse for the corn farmers there in Mexico, BUT the person talking to the reporter made the excuse that IF they couldnt grow and harvest GMO corn, they would be in a fix as their equipment isnt able to work in a conventional hybred regular corn field. Did I do any better this time??

paul · Feb 2, 2023

You arent saying it very clearly, but I think you didnt understand it very clearly.

First of all this isnt all that big a deal. Mexico is only starting out with food grade corn, the white corn. That is very small market.

Most corn Mexico imports is to feed livestock and there is no ban on that.

So this is a 5% problem, not a 95% problem.

Most farmers that know the score arent much worried.

As to your question, I suspect the farmer said we dont have the equipment to control weeds and insects without using the newer herbicides and the bug control many
get with gmo seed.

Given time we can certainly adapt back to the old days, but going back to harsher herbicides and much more harsher insecticides seems a step backwards, why
anyone would want that for the future is a mystery.

Weed control we can use older herbicides, if there is enough supply of them.

Insect control is a big deal in corn, gmo traits have made insect control much safer and cheaper. Many of the insecticide that used to be used is banned now, or much
more restricted. I would expect that is mostly what the farmer was talking about?

Traditional Farmer · Feb 3, 2023

The greater point is much of the World has turned against GMO grain,the only market that really WANTS US GMO grain is China and the ethanol plants.The differences,what is better/worse whatever is totally beside the point.GMO is losing the argument,go on any social media website and GMO is constantly being battered.Basically two types of consumers now 1)Those that have switch off GMO and 2) Ones that want to but can't afford it or can't find an alternate.
Those with the money to spend drives the market not producers,ignore that at one's own peril.

rrlund · Feb 3, 2023

Ya, you did a better job. ROFLMAO! Sounds like they hired a Hollywood actor. LOL

The only difference it would make is that the corn would be mixed together at harvest so would have to be sold as
GM corn.

I'm gonna have to remember this and use that line on would be farmers that want to grow organic or conventional
only. I'll tell them that manufacturers have only been making planters, combines and heads for GM corn for 30
years now and that all the equipment to plant and harvest organic and conventional corn has long since worn out
and has been scrapped. Anybody who knows me knows I'll do it too. LOL

mijohn · Apr 9, 2023

I'll put my two cents worth in. Back in 1985 when farmers were going broke because of cheap markets, they asked the world what
they wanted us to grow. France said non-GMO corn. The American farmers told them, you'll buy what we want to grow or go with
out. This was because of roundup ready corn. The farmers were getting so big that they couldn't cultivate all their acers they
were farming. Weed spray was an is King. And farms have just gotten larger ever since. So unless China speaks up, it will stay
the same. China is the big dog in the room from now on out. So what she wants to buy, that is what we will grow! An since we
are basically a two-crop culture we are stuck where we are at unless something dramatically changes. And if it does, hold on.
john

Muir hill 101 · Apr 10, 2023

Because we should farm to suit social media that makes sense ? And can you Or anyone else say in your words why gmo Is so bad ?

Muir hill 101 · Apr 10, 2023

wp6529 · Apr 10, 2023

It has been noted the absurdity of the GMO and Climate Change camps where each touts science when it supports their prejudices and deny it when it doesn't.

The science supports climate change, and the science also supports GMO crops.

Muir hill 101 · Apr 12, 2023

Even the devil speaks the truth just how much and
when depends on the situation.

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