Using Kinze Finger Pickups on JD7000 to plant beans

706owner

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I bought a JD 7000 4 row planter that the owner used for sweet corn. It has Kinze finger pickups on each box.

I want to use the planter to plant about 25 acres of beans for food plots this Spring.

Will the finger pickups work for beans or is there a different plate I can buy to make it work with beans?

I've been trying to read up on them, but the information is all over. I've heard to take the corn population x5, I've heard they won't work very well for beans, I've heard there are other options available. I'm trying to find what would work best without paying $600 for new bean meters just to plant food plots.

I think I'll have to clean them up a bit, but overall, they're in good shape and the planter was kept inside.

Thanks in advance!
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I'm not going to address your question because I only planted with mine one year and don't pretend to be an expert. I will tell you that all that rust on the backer plate is not a good thing. If it gets bad enough it will rub the outside off your seed. And you need to wash those ASAP to get that pink stuff out of there or the rust is going to get worse. This advice compliments of JDSeller who pounded it thru my skull last year! :)
 
Copy that, thanks. I think I will take the fingers apart and tumble them in walnut media (used to polish rifle and pistol brass). That should clean them up nicely.
 
For beans you will need bean cups. You need to clean up or replace the back plate on your seed meters. At the end of the season take them apart and blow them out.
 
So from what I can find online, the bean cups are $100 - $150 each and I need 4.....I paid $800 for the planter and hate to spend that much more just to plant beans, but if that's my only option........
 
So is this the unit that would fit the Kinze I already have?

http://www.sloanex.com/caaff19ss0-soybeanfeedcupmeterassembly.html

It says: "Fits John Deere 7000/7100 planter unit seed hoppers with finger pick-up style meter"
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you should be able to find used bean cups cheaper then that , there's alot of different brands / aftermarket, & if im correct the 7000 deere planter was built by kinze anyhow ,if not the planter units are a copy , i plant 30 inch beans with mine & it works great , way better metering then a drill will ever do & no till capable , i dont think the fingers will hold on to the seed , i bought used bean cups w/ the boxes for $100 each , just makes it easier jumping back N forth in the spring depending on the year & temp., when the need to plant both at the same time comes about ,i should note ,not that it should matter mine is a newer 7000 conservation, id say for $800 you got a steel , get $2000 for them here , conservation model start @ $4500 & up w/out monitor
 
Yes that would be the bean cup unit that would fit your planter boxes.

Do not pay $100 a row.

Those cups are 'bean spillers' and no one wants them any more. Most folks bought Kinse radial bean meters. Or the ones JD makes, or the ones Shoup has. These work much more similar to a finger pickup, by isolating single beans and sorting them out with brushes and delivering a much more even seeding rate.

So most folk are going to have those bean cups sitting on a shelf collecting dust. I see them at auction for $10 for the whole planter pile of them - 6 or 8 or 12 in a pile.

The Kinze or Shoup radial bean meters sell used for $50-80 each. There is little to go wrong with them, maybe need a fresh brush. If you are going to spend so much, find a set of these for beans. They also work for other crops, they have different sized plates that go with them.

So, either find some real cheap used cups, or some good used bean -meters- for your planter.

The finger units are designed to pick up different shaped seeds and plant them up to 40-50,000 per acre. You just won't get enough population per acre so they can't work for you. Even doubling back won't be high enough.

Soybean cups fling out seed in a controlled spill at about a bu an acre or more, 140-250,000 seeds an acre.

The kimze meters are designed to sort out mostly round seed and plant an exact seed rate of 100-300,000 much more precisely than the cups.

Paul
 
I would replace the backer plate. If you remove the rust, you will have pits where the steel was. That will scuff the seeds, lowering germination. I think Schoup has plates for about $220. Bean cups are dirt cheap, like paul says.
 
JD built the 7000- Kinze copied it, and JD sued Kinze. Kinze copied the 7000 cuz they had a contract with JD to provide row units for the Kinze folding bar, and JD claimed it couldn"t find enough material, etc. to fulfill the contract. Kinze won the lawsuit.
 
I think the story is two brothers from Kentucky invented the finger pickup and their first stop to sell it was IH. They weren't interested so they went to John Deere who bought it. There s also a Kinze connection in the deal.
 
Theres a good book about the Kenzie story. Tells the story of the planters as well as the rest of the stuff he has invented. Very smart man.
 
Thanks for all the replies!! I bought a set of Kinze brush meters for $80 each after shipping.

I also cleaned up my Kinze finger pickup assembly and am working on the other 3.

Thanks again!
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