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How much weight and power for a planter

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Looking at upgrading from a JD 7000 4-30 not ill dry to an eight row either liquid or dry. Having trouble finding what I want has to be narrow travel ie Kelder fold or end transport preferably folding and have fertilize anyway I love planting with my 1650 cockshutt we turboed the 283 bigger sleeves complete over haul and it's super easy on fuel it's dualed up has cast centers weighs about 11500 with no suitcase weights an makes 126 hp on the dyno anyway do y'all think it could handle a 12 row in ohio on rolling/slight slope black dirt just looking at options cause 12am seem to be plentiful
 
Unless you made significant upgrades to the rest of the tractor (cooling system, clutch, transmission, rear end) you have way more power than you will be able to reliably use in the field.

You'll have a very heavy unit by the time you put fertilizer on an 8- or 12-row planter. Especially for the 12-row I'd think more like 150-hp (along with the appropriate chassis/drivetrain) would be a minimum.
 
Whew, thought you were going to go to an 8 row and was gonna say should do fine, but 12 with fert with notill, that is asking a lot for that tractor, no matter how mich you bored it out and sloped it up, its still a base tractor for a 6-8 row planter as far as hydraulics, cooling, weight and traction, etc.

I would want something bigger in the shed for the more difficult years.....

Paul
 
I'm hunting an eight row found one wo fertilize I like just asking a 12 because they are so plentiful it does have a twin disc clutch we use it to pull an 1800 gallon liquid tank with four row applicator six to eight deep she does ok like I said not wanting a 12 but they are lime packaging peanuts around here. Anyone know if u can take an eight row wide with folding and scoot it in to thirtys?jd 7000
 
12 row with that? I would be looking for something along the power of a 4440 Deere. If you like IH a 1086 would probably do it. I'm not a huge Deere fan but the 4440 is a very nice and capable planting tractor. They are good on fuel unless they have been turned up. I find the one here needs a diesel tank more frequently than others because it is turned up.

I'm not sure what these numbers mean in the Cockshut/Ollie world. A tractor in the 140 horse category was a huge tractor back in the day. When I was a kid we did everything with two 95 horse tractors. We also had a 4 row planter.
 
First off you're playing Russian roulette with that poor old Waukeshea, putting a turbo on it and relying on it to do heavy work like that. Second, it'll never handle a loaded 12 row planter. Get a bigger horse, something that will handle it with ease, or stick to a smaller planter. No-tilling with a loaded 4 row machine is enough for a 65-70 hp tractor in my neck of the woods, sounds like a perfect size for the tractor you have.
 
Neighbor pulled a 12 row with a JD 4050 two wheel drive for many years. Now uses a 7410 on the 12 row and a 7510 on a 16 row. northeast nebraska
 
The turbo setup just made her the same as 310 which was factory in the 1800 and up only like the early 310 it doesn't have oil cooler anyway got. 2-135 white set to 155 rule specs and a 5488 ih two wheel drive just like how light and nibble the cockshutt is and she sips fuel hoping to find an eight row ps it just toys with that four row even no tilling now the 750 drill no tilling pulls on her ears alittle till I hit the hydra power then she perks right back up I only plant corn at 3-4 mph and bout that with beans maybe a tick faster
 
Like I said not really wanting a twelve if I go that route it would be wo fertilize think eight row liquid would be fine also forgot to mention I have a lot of small patches ten her four there etc so I try not to fill fertilize full unless no tilling hate moving down the road heavy or in case of accident don't need EPA involved
 
8r30 would be better for smaller fields. I first pulled mine with the 4020 with duals, dry fert......adds 2200 lbs. Later, 4240.
 
Ive seen somebody pull a 12row with a 4230 JD with no problem. No weights or duals. There was no hills though and the soil was fairly light.
 
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