I was discussing using a sub soiler to pull up roots in a field and someone told me I was going to kill myself because it was extremely easy to flip a tractor using a sub soiler if it hits something immovable. I was under the impression that using a modern 3pt hitch it was nearly impossible to flip a tractor and my past experience prove this so. Usually pulling in low range 2nd or 3rd gear and loose traction long before I get any tire lift what so ever.
- Thread starter aarolar
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I've never heard of anyone flipping at tractor
using a subsoiler... on the 3ph you'd have to
break the top link (i've seen them break - but
only under shock load while traveling on the road
with heavy loads on them). Most times when you
catch something immovable the shear pin breaks, or
drags the tractor to a stop, either stalling it if
traction is good, or spinning out if traction is
poor.
Not sure what sort of size you are talking about,
but i've used a 3 leg machine on my 200hp MF and
made the tractor work too...
I guess a trailed sub soiler could (if hitched
incorrectly) flip a tractor, but a 3ph one would
be almost impossible... but i guess if you try
hard enough anything is possible
using a subsoiler... on the 3ph you'd have to
break the top link (i've seen them break - but
only under shock load while traveling on the road
with heavy loads on them). Most times when you
catch something immovable the shear pin breaks, or
drags the tractor to a stop, either stalling it if
traction is good, or spinning out if traction is
poor.
Not sure what sort of size you are talking about,
but i've used a 3 leg machine on my 200hp MF and
made the tractor work too...
I guess a trailed sub soiler could (if hitched
incorrectly) flip a tractor, but a 3ph one would
be almost impossible... but i guess if you try
hard enough anything is possible
Anonymous-0
Well-known Member
We all have "experts" in the neighborhood, most you just best to ignore
notjustair
Well-known Member
With the arms down the pull should be below the axle. Flips
backwards are more likely when the pull is above the axle. I
suppose it isn't impossible but much lower on the likely scale.
You are more likely to injure yourself running the PTO.
backwards are more likely when the pull is above the axle. I
suppose it isn't impossible but much lower on the likely scale.
You are more likely to injure yourself running the PTO.
Brendon-KS
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- Goessel, KS
Your experience was probably with a pull-type sub-soiler, correct? (I've never seen an R with a hitch.) With a pull-type implement there is always a chance of flipping but with a mounted implement this would be physically impossible unless something on the hitch breaks, namely the lower links giving way simultaneously.
Tx Jim
Well-known Member
- Location
- Coyote Flats, Texas
I agree with Brendon-KS in that a tractor with 3 pt implement reared
up the lower draft links along with centerlink and rockshaft should limit how high front wheels leave the ground unless draft arms & rockshaft broke.
evilboweivel
Member
only time I tried a subsoiler on my Oliver 1650 was a three point single sub soiler in nasty clay spoils pile. went about 12 feet and the top link broke. the sub soiler came forward and busted the pto housing.
Ron
Ron
Anonymous-0
Well-known Member
I often think about me flipping over at the tractor pulls -- kinda scary when you teeder down the track , but they say it is impossible to flip over if your hooked below the axle.
RCP
Well-known Member
- Location
- Grove City Pa
I have seen Oliver's with the PTO housing broke, but it didn't occur to me that this is what caused it. They were all on 3pt hitch tractors, I have never see a non-3pt tractor with the housing broke like that.
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