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02-15-2014 23:59:52

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Lots of luck ive been to a few banks same as others around here.they go like this whats your expence you give them your expence both farm and personal then they ask whats your income you give both farm and off farm and then they will tell you farm income dont count!! Its happened to me and others it worse for single because your off farm income is less than on farm . it never ceases to astonsh me a guy thats got over a million dollars of farm land paid for and couldnt borrow a dime. ag banks are the same way its not what you know its who you know ive seen a few that are operating on grandpas money and uncle sugar have no problem (one only had corn on the end of the field he had to slow down to make a turn ) . in a way its helped me because if a cant pay for i dont get it

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02-16-2014 16:26:20

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 Re: line of credit in reply to farmerwithmutt, 02-15-2014 23:59:52  
The pay as you go plan has always worked in the past. I'm at a place now though where it just will not allow me to get any bigger (or at least not fast enough to get there before I'm too old to care).
In order for this "farm" to ever be more than a way to keep busy on the weekend, to ever turn into an actual business I need to expand. I can't really go pursue land without the means of putting inputs into it, and I can't cashflow the inputs without the production from the land. ?????
It seems that I'm stuck with a gross around 30,000 and no hope of ever turning this into a real business. Always thought free enterprise worked off of the lending institutions, how do they make money if they don't ever lend any??

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02-16-2014 19:33:24

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 Re: line of credit in reply to dmiller, 02-16-2014 16:26:20  
Sometimes you got to go sideways what i do is low imput rotational grazing i get a guy to put up hay on shares so 1st crop part grazed rest baled on shares 2nd crop depending on year over half put on shares rest grazed third i get it all stockpile grass in fall early jump on spring hopefull in couple weeks start haying.
In the fall adjust the cattle to what i can feed over instead of buying machinery i buy cattle i do have small tractor and enough machinery to get the crop up purchaced over time and at the right price.but by buying cattle i get new machinery every year and my machinery instead of wearing out soon last longer. i can get more info if you like at a real intetesting meeting on grazing its highly competive

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02-16-2014 19:48:56

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 Re: line of credit in reply to farmerwithmutt, 02-16-2014 19:33:24  
I entirely agree with the efficiency of grazing units. One of the things I'm trying to expand into this year is putting 600lb calves on irrigated pasture for the summer and selling when the grass runs out/snow hits. Here in Montana no one will loan on cattle as their own collateral if you do not own your own brand. May have to go that far but was hoping to buy on contract or borrow on a bill of sale. Apparently they just don't do that here.
Over all though I really don't plan on becoming a cattleman, I just like the farming end of things too much, work the ground, scout the crop, harvesting etc.

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