Homemade vertical tillage tool

dmiller

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Just posted a message on the "implements" forum regarding making a comibnation tillage tool out of an old Graham Hoeme Chisel and a 10Ft. Eversman disc. Was wondering if anyone here had any input on the idea.
The tractor is a wheatland 806 and the fields are usually sandy loams. They are flood irrigated also.
 
Was gonna build one out of a white field cultivator and a john deere disc never got finished all of em I've seen and used have one thing in common little heavier framed and slight angle on disc blades to cut deeper slit for moisture good luck and post pics
 
Thanks for the encouragement. I was hoping to get some feedback on how likely it is to work and be a good thing. I'm a bit hesitant to cut up my only plow and possibly ruin my only disc.
There should be plenty of metal there between the two frames for the strength and weight.
Any input of how many chisel shanks to use and at what spacings? Should the chisel points be at the same level as the bottom of the discs or should they extend a bit deeper?
 
Chisels always run deeper than discs. Half to again as deep, if they"re going to do a decent job. I doubt your combo will accomplish as much as the factory vert tillage tools. Make a pass with each machine and see what the results are...you can do that without cutting up anything.....If you want to rip hardpan, you need ripper shanks.....longer than chisel shanks. And lots more power.
 
I think youre a bit confused. Vertical tillage machines do not use chisel points. They are made to only go 2 inches deep. All they are supposed to do is cut up trash and mix it with a very little dirt.
 
Assume you intend to straighten the disk gangs which means you would need to change the disks which currently have too much "dish" to work properly with a reduced disk gange angle. Otherwise you aren't really going vertical till. True vertical till requires quite a bit of implement weight to get penetration if the soil is dry. If wet no problem, but one shouldn't be out there when it is wet. I converted a JD 335 disk which at that time was the heaviest tandem they made. Wouldn't want anything lighter and it is significantly heavier than what you have. Not really vertical till but if your intention is to mount a row or two of chisels between the disk gang, it would accomplish in one pass what the two implements do separately. If you have the time, money and inclination it would be an interesting project.
 
I answered up on the other forum, but Yetter makes a bolt on set of coulters for chisel plows that use the shanks as springs. You'd still need a basket and/or chopper to follow and level the seed bed...
 
Neighbor to the north made one from a heavy 9 inch spacing JD disk. One of those that just have one wing. about 21 ft wide. He straightened the gangs and made sure the back gangs split the front ones. Then put 2 inch no-till wavy coulters. Also has 2000 lb or so of weight in the middle of it. Pulls it with a big CIH Magnum front wheel assist. Says need to stay above 8 mph and 10 is better. He runs it down on the spools, so is going 6 to 7 inches deep. Has rolling baskets behind. Seems to do a good job. But I'm not sure yields are better than just no-tilling. He says lets him plant a couple of days sooner.
 

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