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I heard on the radio that the senate was all ready to pass a farm bill but the house went home early for the holiday. So does that mean milk is going to go sky high or is their more time?
 
Only time will tell. The way they are doing things in D.C. things are still looking bad. They did little to increase the pay of any of the military and or the vet benefits but I'll bet they get there pay raise as they always do
 
It would be nice if they would call it what it really is. It should be the SNAP bill, because it deals more with give away programs than agriculture. If they actually passed a farm bill, it would be much more simple, because everyone understands what the money is for and where it goes. The SNAP money just seems to keep going down a bottomless hole, and congress isn't really interested in where it goes as long as they get some more votes from it....
 
Some politicians claim that milk will double if a new farm bill is not passed because they think that a whole wave of Dairymen will go out of business and lower the supply. Well guess what? its already happening, high feed costs have been driving small and medium Dairymen out for the last 3 years, markets adjust themselves, with governemnt interference it sometimes takes longer but always makes it worse in the end.
 
No, that"s not the reason why milk prices would increase dramatically. It"s because without new legislation, the old law, dating back to about 1949, would kick in, setting milk prices at 100% of parity. Even if dairymen went out of business, that would not mean the cows would be slaughtered, rather than sold to another dairyman. Changing the supply would take time. The change in law is instantaneous upon current law expiring.
 
"The change in law is instantaneous upon current law expiring"
But lets look at the law

From what I understand.....
If a new farm bill is not signed by the end of the month we would revert to permanent law; In the case of dairy, that would be the 1949 farm bill.
So lets say that happens...
Now every dairy farmer has a choice to make.
He can sell his milk to his normal purchaser at (lets say because I do not know current prices) $18 or $19 a hundred weight
OR
He can sell his milk to the USDA at $38 a hundred weight.

Now I know simple logic tells you every dairy farmer will be selling to the USDA to take advantage of the situation.
But why. This is a choice not a forced sale to the USDA.

Does this not make dairy farmers no better than other beltway people that live to take advantage of a situation no matter what it cost others.

For me they could just do away with the farm bill. That would allow farmers to work in a free enterprise system where supply and demand sets price; and get rid of snap forcing some people to get off their lazy back side and get a job.

Nothing like killing two birds with one stone.
 
That's not how it works. No farmer is going to "sell to USDA". The government doesn't handle fluid product. The government would just be forced to buy surplus butter,powder and cheese,which they are able to store,if the high price killed demand and product started backing up in the system. The price would rise due to milk being marketed under Federal Milk Marketing Orders.
 
Nixon and Carter pretty much killed the idea of free enterprise in agriculture.

Not much any single farmer can do about that.

You on your job, whatever it is, can say no I don't care about minimum wage laws, or my unions bargaining, I will work for 1/3 of those rates on my own initiative.

Right? You'll do that won't you? All of you?

That is what you are telling us to do.

Paul
 
my thought is if farmers are getting subsities right now from the govt where is that money coming from? so whats the differance between us paying at the grocery store plus paying taxes to pay the subsitys. get rid of the middleman and let free enterprise take over it will keep the best and get rid of the ones that need a new tractor every year
 

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