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Discussion Board - Re: What happened to the farm census thread?

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Sid

01-09-2013 11:22:30
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"There's NOTHING we do that is so "top secret" that it needs to be concealed from the government. (unless you're engaged in something illegal)"

That is true. On the other hand there is nothing I do that they need to know about.




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MF Poor

01-09-2013 12:47:26
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 Re: What happened to the farm census thread? in reply to Sid, 01-09-2013 11:22:30  
So you don't believe the government needs to know anything about how farmers operate in order to set farm policy? Let me guess...Once they set farm policy, based on bad knowledge and/or NO knowledge, you wouldn't hesitate to critisize that policy.

Your opinion is not unlike a person walking into a doctors office with some sort of ailment, then refusing to let the doctor know what's wrong. And then expecting that doctor to fix what's wrong and not make any mistakes.

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rrlund

01-09-2013 12:40:19
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 Re: What happened to the farm census thread? in reply to Sid, 01-09-2013 11:22:30  
It wasn't the "what I do" that stopped me. I filled it out until I got to the page where they wanted to know the value of my equipment. At that point I just wrote "I'm not going any further" and mailed it back.



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Animal

01-09-2013 13:37:38
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 Re: What happened to the farm census thread? in reply to rrlund, 01-09-2013 12:40:19  
Just curious, why did that bother you? If they want to know about my junky old equipment, I do not mind at all. The main reason I do not mind telling them is I really do not think they have a real clue as to how much money it costs us in equipment from year to year..If it is a tax thing that some of you are worried about, I can assure you that the right hand does not know what the left hand is doing.

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rrlund

01-09-2013 14:01:14
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 Re: What happened to the farm census thread? in reply to Animal, 01-09-2013 13:37:38  
I'm not an apraiser. We don't have personal property tax on farm equipment here in Michigan so I don't have any kind of assessment to go on. I'm not going to hire an apraiser or sit here for hours trying to figure out what I have or what it's worth. I was pizzed off enough just having to fill out yet another bunch of government paperwork anyway,and after figuring out acres,yields,all that crap,I was at the end of my rope.
No different to me than the regular census when they get beyond number of people,gender and age. That's all they're getting from me.

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MF Poor

01-09-2013 13:25:12
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 Re: What happened to the farm census thread? in reply to rrlund, 01-09-2013 12:40:19  
Most questionaires like the ag cencus use information that seems relatively meaningless to some to "profile" the subjects being quizzed. They use statistical information such as approximate value of your equipment along with acreage farmed, estimated value of crops raised, ect, to determine what "average" is. It's not so much their being interested in the value of your equipment as it is just how you fit in the grand scheme of things. Most employers have questions on their applications that do the same end. It's almost ridiculous to think the government is concerned about how much you paid for your latest tractor. Do you suppose that's critical information as to US farm policy? NOPE! They just want a better picture of where you fit in the big picture, and just how your locale stacks up against farms and farmers in other parts of the country.

I doubt seriously any major policy will hinge upon how much I paid for my used hay rake, nor is there someone sitting in a dark office in the basement of the Capital building who needs to know specifically how much I have invested in my old combine. They just need generalizations and averages to reach INFORMED EDUCATED desicions rather than just guessing.

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