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LAA

09-17-2012 22:00:04
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If you sign up on Government programs you are subjecting yourself to bureacrats regulations and whims, how about a little sympathy for the taxpayers subsidizing these programs?




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paul

09-18-2012 06:15:43
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 Re: FSA office in reply to LAA, 09-17-2012 22:00:04  
Then get our govt to get out of the 'free market' of farm commodity prices, and we all can be happier. :)

When they manipulate the market prices, they end up having to support the crashed prices they create for decades.

Would be like the govt does something to lower hourly wages by 1/3. Then they have to spend more on food stamps to make up for it.... Even if you have a good hourly wage job, you'd be kinda upset about it & looking for the govt to make it right again...

Same deal with the govt ag programs.

--->Paul

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LAA

09-18-2012 06:35:19
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 Re: FSA office in reply to paul, 09-18-2012 06:15:43  
I don"t look for the Government to make anything right, that is the ultimate contradiction. My Grandfather, Dad, Uncles, Brothers, Cousins, Myself and now my Sons all currently or formerly farmed and not one of us ever signed up on any program whatsoever, consequently, no one can tell me what to grow or not to grow on my land just as they could not tell my Dad or GrandFather.



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cd1

09-21-2012 05:53:10
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 Re: FSA office in reply to LAA, 09-18-2012 06:35:19  
Do you use crop insurance?



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LAA

09-22-2012 07:50:57
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 Re: FSA office in reply to cd1, 09-21-2012 05:53:10  
No, I do not use crop insurance.



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paul

09-18-2012 06:57:53
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 Re: FSA office in reply to LAA, 09-18-2012 06:35:19  
I understand where you are coming from.

Where I live, they count my cattle, my 'huge' 25-33 head grazing heard needs to be permitted every 4 years.

I can't plant certain areas that were deemed wetlands in the 1980's. I need permits to drain any part of the farm. I need paperwork and monthly inspections if I store more than 1320 gallons of petro. I need permits to store granular fertilizer or a certain amount of liquid fertilizers.

This is outside of the farm program, applies to you as well, so don't think if you stay out of the program, you are outside of the govt.

They are sending up drones in the Dakotas to enforce these regulations. Other states are waiting to join in with the drones, big brother is watching.

I'm with you, I agree, but - they make the rules, you are not so insulated from them as you think.

It only gets worse.

--->Paul

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LAA

09-18-2012 08:46:47
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 Re: FSA office in reply to paul, 09-18-2012 06:57:53  
I certainly don't claim to be above the law and I understand no one can divorce the government completely but, I refuse to help them have more control over me than they already have.



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