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Discussion Board - Decisions,decisions

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rrlund

09-01-2012 11:03:11
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I've never cut hay in the year I seeded it,but I'm sure tempted this year. I seeded alfalfa in the oats as usual,but I cut the oats earlier than I ever have. Then I clipped the straw. I just walked out in it and the alfalfa's above my knees. Looks better than any of my third cutting. I just hate to take a chance on draining the roots from the regrowth this fall and risking yield next year.




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hayray

09-06-2012 05:42:51
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 Re: Decisions,decisions in reply to rrlund, 09-01-2012 11:03:11  
I am in Michigan also and I always cut twice the seeding year. The expectations of the modern genetics are way and above what the older varieties are. Southern Michigan recommendations are that alfalfa be cut on the average by September 1, however you can go to MSU extension website and look up growing degree days for later cuttings.



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K. Peters

09-03-2012 18:33:10
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 Re: Decisions,decisions in reply to rrlund, 09-01-2012 11:03:11  

Personally I'd cut it, my dad always said Sept.5 was the last day to cut hay until after it starts freezing at night and I'm in E.C. WI.
I tried direct seeding alfalfa this year (April 12) for the first time and after each cutting it seems to get better. I spread 250 lbs. potash last week and if we receive more rain I may need to take a fourth cut.
Pic is of the second cutting (July 11) and was kinda thin because of lack of moisture but I felt the need to at least manage the weeds in case it did rain.

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ihman73

09-02-2012 13:02:46
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 Re: Decisions,decisions in reply to rrlund, 09-01-2012 11:03:11  
I can only speak for my region (swIL) we usually take 2 cuttings off new alfalfa. The first after it is full on into bloom and the 2nd also bloomed out before the end of august if possible then like our older stands it has sept. to build root stores. We then usually take a cutting off of our established stands in early oct.



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old

09-02-2012 09:07:46
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 Re: Decisions,decisions in reply to rrlund, 09-01-2012 11:03:11  
The way hay is around here a guy in my area would cut hay no matter what if it was green and tall but then we have not had enough rain till just a few days ago to have any thing grow. Most people in my area have no hay for sale which is not common here. Cut it bale it and it will sell in a heart beat



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rrlund

09-02-2012 10:25:47
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 Re: Decisions,decisions in reply to old, 09-02-2012 09:07:46  
It would never be for sale with better'n 200 head of cattle around here at any given time.



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old

09-02-2012 10:38:18
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 Re: Decisions,decisions in reply to rrlund, 09-02-2012 10:25:47  
Well even if never for sale you might have the problem we have had this year up your way next year and then you would have some left overs to fall back on. I learned that year old hay sure is worth a lot more then no hay at all



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rrlund

09-02-2012 13:11:02
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 Re: Decisions,decisions in reply to old, 09-02-2012 10:38:18  
I'm just afraid of hurting first cutting yield next year is all.



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old

09-02-2012 13:17:07
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 Re: Decisions,decisions in reply to rrlund, 09-02-2012 13:11:02  
Ya it is sort of a catch 22 you may not hurt it or you might. I know with clover they tell you to cut it or it will in fact die off



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GordoSD

09-01-2012 16:26:34
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 Re: Decisions,decisions in reply to rrlund, 09-01-2012 11:03:11  
You have plenty of GDD growing degree days,left. Plenty left even up here. But there is nothing to cut Go ahead and knock it down. Is it budding?



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rrlund

09-01-2012 17:05:24
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 Re: Decisions,decisions in reply to GordoSD, 09-01-2012 16:26:34  
Saw just a few blossoms. Super nice looking stuff.



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GordoSD

09-02-2012 10:00:36
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 Re: Decisions,decisions in reply to rrlund, 09-01-2012 17:05:24  
Wait til you see a hint of purple, then mow.



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VicS

09-05-2012 17:30:15
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 Re: Decisions,decisions in reply to GordoSD, 09-02-2012 10:00:36  
Here in Southeast Il. The rains have come! Cut Alfalfa last week, rolled it once baled it last thursday right before it rained. I thought you had to cut it on every holiday or loose your stand. Memorial Day, Fourth of July and Labor day. My neighbor has it about 4 or 5 acres, mainly for deer. It grew about a foot in 2 weeks, after it rained. Made 5 really tight, 4X5 bales. Oh it is the first year for this stand. Vic

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