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08-27-2012 08:17:41

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100% no till since the late '80's. You couldn't pay me to go back to the old days. Less fuel, less time, far better yields, I've all but forgot what a rain rut looks like. Same tractors we were farming with 25 years ago, running day and night back then, we plant 4 times the acreage in half the time. Soil structure is vastly improved. It's been a win/win situation for me.

The drought has hit this area hard this summer. Neighbor is all conventional tillage. His crops look horrible. Mine look fairly good all facts considered. He's combined one field and so have I. His yields were in the 45 bu/ac range. Mine was 112. Both fields planted within 3 days of each other. Yesterday, he was in the field with a deep ripper. It looked like the dust bowl days. I was inside watching the little league world series, enjoying the fact my ground wasn't blowing away in the wind.

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09-05-2012 10:47:32

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 Re: meeting in reply to MFPoor, 08-27-2012 08:17:41  
No-till is part of the reason that farmers are becoming non-existent these days. I'm not arguing whether no-till is better or worse, but like you said you farm 4 times the ground in half the time. So you could do 8 times the ground if you worked as many hours as when you were younger. No-till has ushered in the era of 5000 acre farms... Once again, I am not bashing it from a technical standpoint, although I chisel and am happy with the results. However there is no denying that Roundup Ready and no-till are the 2 biggest things that are reducing the number of farmers. Some are getting out because all of a sudden their neighbor can now easily farm their 400 acres in 2 weeks and they rent out for the easy money. Some are pushed out because the BTO's now have the ability to do 8 times the ground and by God they will come hell or high water.

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09-16-2012 06:19:05

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 Re: meeting in reply to Notillnomorefarmers, 09-05-2012 10:47:32  
By that warped (anti)logic of yours, tractors have reduced the number of farmers....Combines have reduced the number of farmers.....Good seed has reduced the number of farmers....Fertilizer has reduced the number of farmers....You wanna argue the value or need of any of those?

No till has kept farmers viable, and in that regard, kept the numbers UP instead of the ridiculous notion it's reduced the number of farmers. Without improved technology, we'd all be out of business. Sticking with old world methods might make you feel good, but they don't feed the bulldog. Myself? I'd rather stay up to date, keep improving my craft, and advance my lot in life rather than stand pat, be left in the dust, and become an outdated part of ancient history.

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MF Poor

09-08-2012 20:25:20

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 Re: meeting in reply to Notillnomorefarmers, 09-05-2012 10:47:32  
That's twisted logic if I've ever heard it. No till has kept a lot of farmers IN the business. No tilling keeps us profitable in bad years and let us thrive in good years. No one succeeds by standing still.

Times change and when they do, you either change with them, or you sit around and wish the old days would come back again. They won't.

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09-14-2012 18:55:38

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 Re: meeting in reply to MF Poor, 09-08-2012 20:25:20  
If you don't understand my logic then its a waste of time trying to explain. You've embraced an idea that majorly reduces the need for farmers, and in your mind this preserves the American farmer? Twisted logic yourself.

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MF Poor

09-15-2012 17:48:35

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 Re: meeting in reply to Notillnomorefarmers, 09-14-2012 18:55:38  
It's not possible to understand your "logic" because, quite simply, there is NO logic to your comment. It's pure and fail to grasp changes in technology, and hate what you don't/can't understand. No tilling has kept farmers profitable. Don't feel bad....There's a lot of people standing in welfare lines with the same ailment that's holding you back.

It's as simple as this...No tilling is GODD BUSINESS for farmers....

I know....thousands upon thousands of farmers who are making healthy profits are all wrong and you're here to save us from ourselves....Pffft!!!LOL! No thanks.

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