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Re: Thinking about farming....advise

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08-16-2012 14:20:47

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randall, I am in Ga and thats as specific as I can be until I meet again with current tenants. The soil here is sandy, gets like powder when extremely dry, not much clay at all.

I can see where the pivot could sound extreme at this point but like jack said, if water is ever regulated in this area, I would think regulations would go towards preventing new installations first, then later regulate those with them. Then my chances of having water get way slim, which would make a good yield totally dependant on a wet year, not to mention land rent goes up times by about 4 times if you have irrigation, if I decided to lease it back out...BUT yall are right, payments have to be made somehow by somebody.

Jack, from the little I know, I understand what you are saying. However there are a lot of people here going back to conventional til, at least at this time. A man who deals with farmers in his business told me he believes that as much as 70% of farming locally is conv. til.......which is way up from 4 or 5 years ago, some even going backto cultivating beans and corn.

Now is that why I have the equipment I have, because i'm convinced farming here is going back that direction? Of course not, from talking to others, it seemed this equipment would get me through a few years to get a handle on what direction I was going.
Do yall feel this equipment, although old but in fine working order (the ripper spider w/71s), will hurt yield vs a strip till rig? will it hurt yield enough to justify about a $18k price difference in planters, on a 60 acre farm?

Randall, drag racing is my passion, if I could do life over id be pro stock racing in the 80s...but I have put it down for a while, one reason is I learned, to make $10k racing, start with $100k, when you get down to 10 youll walk away.........i may be about to learn that with farming also huh?

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08-17-2012 05:38:32

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 Re: Thinking about farming....advise in reply to smokedoff, 08-16-2012 14:20:47  
If you are mechanically inclined and can fix all your own (used)equipment, then you can probably make it with your existing equipment. You will not have the acreage base to justify new stuff....just not enough income coming in to make the payments. Now, if you have the money readily available......that's a whole new ball game many of us have never played in. You will need to halfway enjoy working on all your equipment. If you don't like that sort of activity....that's strike one. (We) can't afford to have the implement dealer come get our stuff all the time and work on it. Use what you have to get started. It makes "dreaming about the new stuff" all the more fun.

I am located in central Missouri and like Paul, deal mainly with getting rid of water rather that dumping more on, (this year being an exception). I cannot advise you on irrigation, nor am I familiar with the peanut crops grown in Georgia. By the way, I'm proud of you for coming back and facing us old farts. You proved you got a pair! Welcome aboard.

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08-16-2012 15:53:58

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 Re: Thinking about farming....advise in reply to smokedoff, 08-16-2012 14:20:47  
Racing sounds a lot like farming. :)

Up here in Minnesota we have very different conditions, too much water 8 out of 10 years, heavy clay soil. So I'm probably not going to help much with the equipment you need.

But we do full tillage up here as well.

I have hopes strip till will come around some day, but - still doesn't work well with our soft wet cold clay. We need to beat the ground into submission to get it to dry out & warm up.

I would guess in 3-4 years you could sell that stuff for about what you paid for it, and move to something different if you wanted to, so you wouldn't be out a whole lot along the way?

I've just spent about $25,000 a year for the last 4 years on tiling my small farm, for the very same reasons you state with the irrigation: There is a lot of regulation on such things, and it only gets worse. I've seen that in just the past 5 years, more hoops to jump through, more officies to visit. Like you say, it will be stopped some day, and that is that. It happened before - in the mid 1980's they stopped anyone from draining a wetland any more. If you got it done by then, you're good, keep tiling, keep farming, but now - it's just wasteland.

So, if you will have that 60 acres in ag production for the next 20 years, and you have the means to put in a well and a pivot, it would seem to be a good investment now. Whether you farm it or you rent it out, you should be able to recover the costs over the next 2 decades, and improve your bottom line.

But I don't know anything about irrigating, we do the opposite here, tile to get rid of the dang water. 'Here' tile is a great investment. I assume 'there' irrigation is a good investment.


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