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Re: Thinking about farming....advise

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08-16-2012 08:13:30

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You are right, there is good information here, and I am new here

However, randal, I come up grudge style drag racing, which is where the word smokedoff came from that had such impact on your not at all helpful reply. And in that I developed thick skin early on, so I dont have a problem with your daily amusement, but I also learned what I will and will not tolerate, new guy or not.

No issue with Paul, from other topics he seems knowledgable.

I do think, especially since im new here, that some replies could have been handled differently. You need more information or you need me to be more clear, it can be stated in a way that makes a new person welcome.

I dont care much for assumptions either. I thought rrlund handled his in an upstanding way when I became more clear with him.

I am extremely blessed as I am a third gen family business owner, I have a few hundred acres of land, I am still young and have an opportunity to farm 60 acres of my own land (the only cultivated land I currently own) and make the land more resourceful than renting it out. You are right, paul, I learned years ago to figure outgoing money high and incoming money low. I have a business now that I can come and go as I need and have time to pay attention to my farming.
I appreciate your points of view, even if I dont think they were expressed in the wisest ways. I'm going to talk with the local offices and insuance agencies and see where I stand.
Maybe we can continue this when I know where I stand after getting local information.

Thanks and my appologies anywhere I was offensive or defensive!
This post was edited by smokedoff at 08:16:59 08/16/12.

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08-16-2012 10:28:24

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 Re: Thinking about farming....advise in reply to smokedoff, 08-16-2012 08:13:30  
since you solicited OPINIONS, ill give you a few more. first it appears your equiping your self with the equipment to do full till farming. this in my OPINION is a mistake. for a number of reasons but heres a few.first and formost is simply the warming or no,we are just entering a cyclic period of increased sun activity.this alone if it follows the historical patterns will make drought and prolonged periods of heat more likely. in this instance,again historically, the folks better equiped to deal with drought conditions are the ones most likely to prosper. no till or a min till regime,in this case becomes the more viable of your options in lots of cases.when you also figure in the current dust and polution laws going on the books,increased water usage restrictions, etc etc ,it Again my opinion makes no till a no brainer in most areas. I foresee, crop prices staying high for the near future,simply because of the gov mandates for increasing ethanol production, ethanol producers no longer having the gov subsidies, and things.but the input cost of everything is going to go up next year simply because of demand on seed stocks, fertilizer costs, and that all important fuel cost.i predict far more water rationing laws and maybe even gov restrictions on the amount of water available for irrigating.
in many ways starting now is not bad,simply because you have a chance to make some real money for the first time in a long time, but in others its also a bad time to get started on the wrong foot. I personaly,again MY OWN opinion , if i were a young person starting today ,wouldnt even consider anything but going no-till. i would park all the equipment i had on the back forty and simply buy equipment that i thought would remain viable at least into the near future. remember also that with increased incomes on farms , the chances of increased gov control goes way up,simply because they think of ways to simply get their hand in the pot. the epa is already trying to enact laws that are somewhat restrictive and show no signs of being reined in.that fact alone makes more modern and adaptable equipment, a better choice for the future. water and its use is already becoming a huge political issue.and the fact that most folks would rather see a green lawn than food on their table that they dont know where comes from doesnt bode well for the future of irrigation. my advice would be to start up right, and keep at it if it is at all possible to do in your area. Again these are my opinions,and do not in anyway reflect the opinions of the management!

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08-16-2012 10:03:17

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 Re: Thinking about farming....advise in reply to smokedoff, 08-16-2012 08:13:30  
There you go. Welcome back. You gave us way more information this time than with your original post. We'd still like to know where you are located so as to be more able to understand your local growing conditions, etc. Personally, I'd try your adventure, it sounds like great fun and you'll gain about a million pounds in experience. It will be great therapy and you might even make a little money....doubtful, but maybe. The irrigation plan seems like a little too much too fast, but it's your money. I'd focus on the basics of crop production first. Find a local farmer who will take you under his wing and be a mentor for you. As the others have mentioned, walk slowly at first because the input costs will literally eat you alive if not done right. Ask any question you like. At our age, about all we've got left is answers. We just love it when someone asks us a question.
Drag racing huh?

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