Reseeding a neglected pasture question

I bought 40 acres that hs been neglected fro a long time. I have tried for last six years to regain the production of the pastures for hay to no avail. I amthinking of plowing them up and planing to brome this fall. Here is eastern kansas brome seems about the best. I have about 25 head of sheep now and plan on putting about 20 acres into hay production with the balance to be rotational grazed. Any thoughts on how to reseed. I only have an old JD FBB drill but no stirers for the brome. Have plow and disk for seedbed preperation. I value any input.

thank you!!!

Look into alfalfa/orchard grass mixture. You might have to have it custom drilled and rolled.
One planting should last you7 years with proper care.

Gordo

Need a lot more info what have you done so far? What do your soil tests show? what is growing now?

You say you have tried but what have or what have you not done. I know a guy in my area that complains about weeds in his pasture but he waits till late Sept or Oct. to brush hog his fields and can not figure out why he has so many weed. That said what have you tried to plant and when?? Do you brush hog the filed to control weeds etc.?? I have had a good pasture here for decades just by throwing out clover seed and grass seed every few years and the people I sell hay to seem to be very happy with my hay

you can seed grass with a regular drill.though naturally it doesnt work as well as one with grass boxes.lots of folks used to use fertilzer for a carier, mix grass seed in very well with it,and set their drill to plant pretty shallow.how exactly has it been neglected?pasture can be renovated lots of times by dragging a heavy disc set fairly straight across it,sowing seed and fertilizer mix after wards.but if you are going to completely start over,turning it under would probably be best place to start.I dont really like a single grass for pastures myself.when i redo one from scratch i always plant some form of clover with a grass seed and add some oats for a quick pasture before grass and clover gets established enough for heavy grazing.mowing late july through august seems to be best to get rid of weeds around these parts.before most weed seeds mature enough to reseed,and late enough and dry enough they cant recover and make another seed crop.if you had it turned up and ready,you could just sow your seed and let rain bury it if you caught it right before a good rain.or if you could borrow a packer or find one ,simply sow it with rotary spreader using sand as a carrier and then pack it good.

Ok here is what Ihave done. First year I did nothing....second year I had it i burned it in Early march. Around June I cut hay and baled it. Third year I put on 60 pounds actual nitrogen in form of urea. Cut hay mid June........forth year I burned it early march and cut it for hay mid june.......fifth year I put on 100 pounds nitrogen in march sprayed 2-4-D at rate of 1 pint per acre and cut hay late last year around July...........this year I burned it mid march again and it is growing again but weeds making another champion comeback.......main weeds are goldenrod, milk weed (I try to pull up all milkweed every year by hand and am making progress) and a couple others i cant identify. I know I should soil test but ust havent. I mainly want this to be good for hay and rotational grazing. Part of it is doing well (4.5 acres) but rest of it is spotty, weedy and over all sucky.

looks like youve done every thing except one,,grass has to reseed it self,if i read correctly youve shot yourself in the foot by baling spraying and burning every year.try leaving grass alone,untouched, one year out of three,dont graze,hay or burn it.mow it only if weeds are taller than grass and let grass reseed itself.best way to do this,if you need the grazing is to divide your pasture up into three or four areas,and rotational graze the others and leave one out of rotation for a year.folks think grass lasts forever ,it doesnt, over haying,burning,is just as bad as overgrazing . it will kill a field as fast as anything.once the grass begins to suffer from overuse of any kind weeds move in.all the burning spraying ,mowing in the world wont stop em.spray for weeds and set your grass back a month and new weed seeds sprout faster than new grass growth,especially in early spring when grass needs that growth to get ahead of weeds.burn it off and you kill that years grass seeds,that pasture needs to reseed.etc etc.Sounds to me like your doing RIGHT, but too much of a good thing is sometimes worse than nothing.

Thank you.....after looking at things this year I have figured out that the 2-4-d has killed off all my legumes (duh)......I need those if I am going to do an intense managed grazing of this pasture.....so.......I am probably not going to do much at all this year execpt mow the tops of the weeds down when they get taller than the grass...(did once already).....then this fall hit it with about 100 LB nitrogen and come feburary or so frost seed in a mix of clovers, other legumes and some mixed grass..and another 100 pounds nitrogen... Then next year graze lightly and let see what it does........thank you