O/T Sports........

Goose

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The football and wrestling programs at the University of Nebraska at Omaha have been cancelled due to lack of funds. It was decided taxpayer money should not be used to support these programs.

That will not affect the Cornhusker football program at the main campus in Lincoln. In fact, the Cornhusker football program supports the other athletic programs at the main campus.

My own opinion is that sports in general have surpassed academics in importance at most educational facilities. When I became Buildings and Grounds Supervisor at a fair sized public school district in the early '80's, (three campuses in two towns) one of the first things I learned was that the School Board and Administration did not run the district. The district was run by the sports booster club. Academic considerations definitely took a back seat to sports.

This was proven when the Vocational Agriculture teacher submitted a request to take a contingent of the FFA chapter on a field trip to the Husker Harvest Days, a three day agricultural exposition by Grand Island, Nebraska that approaches the State Fair in attendance. His request was denied because "transportation would not be available".

When the subject came up at the next School Board meeting, which I was required to attend, a board member whose son would have gone on the trip had it materialized asked, "When was the last time we missed an athletic event because transportation was not avialable?"

I said, "Good shot, Jim".

After all, when inter-school and inter-collegiate athletics were first organized some 125 years ago, the original intent was to create a diversion that would allow the male student body to burn off excess energy that otherwise would have been spent impregnating the female student body. Can anyone seriously argue that that lofty goal was ever met?
 

Here in Iowa, the music and arts programs at the high school level are under threat of being canceled due to lack of funding, but the sports programs are going full gun and are even being expanded. A student who is really good in music stands a good chance of turning that talent into a career, while at the same time, a student who is good at playing football stands very little chance of ever making a living at it.

If you want to know what is wrong with our schools today, and why we are not turning out highly educated graduates, just take a good, hard look at the emphasis we are putting on high school athletics.
 
Our local school districts are having financial trouble, and land owners are feeling it through higher property taxes. (mine went up $1000 this year alone) Since I graduated in '92, several teaching positions, including one shop teacher (teaching viable jobs skills), have been cut, yet sports have expanded. I'm probably going to have to make myself unpopular at a school board meeting by suggesting sports be cut, or at least be funded by participants. No one else seems to have the courage to say it. Too bad the meetings are when farmers (who pay a disproportionate amount of the local school levy) are milking.
 
As I'm sure you know, thank the feds for requiring equal sports for gals. Gals don't have any teams with as many players as football has. Football is usually the only sport that makes a profit, if lucky. I agree spending on sports is way out of control at all levels.
 
I don't understand how the programs cost so much, at least on the high school level, when my sons were playing ball the parents had to pay for uniforms,shoes,insurance and any expenses that may come up during tournaments and away games. I did not mind paying because they were my kids, but i always wondered when the school board was bellyaching about the expense involved. They furnished the bus and bus driver but every football and basketball game was/is always packed at $7.00 per ticket.
 
Goose,
Wasn"t the UNO Mavericks wrestling team the Division II champions for the last 3 years straight? I think they just won this years title again in Kearney last weekend? I heard somewhere, when they got back to Omaha, they couldn't get into the locker rooms because the locks had been changed--what a welcome home?

UNK-Kearney was just plain lucky to beat the Mavericks in football the last 2 years. Usually the Mavs field a much better team. I can only recall Kearney beating Omaha maybe 3 times in the last 20 years? I hope a lot of your football players see their way to transferring to Kearney, we can use them.
Tom
 
You just hit the nail on the head Rusty. You can play an instrument for your whole life and it can easily pay your way through college.

Can you say the same about football?
 
I have to comment..
I am a school teacher in Indiana.
They just closed the last of the middle school industrial arts programs due to lack of funds.....................BUT, they did add an entire spanish speaking school to our district.
Hmmmmmmm.
 
Goose,

I live in Middle Tennessee near Spring Hill. The Maury County School System just opened a Middle School in Spring Hill (5th - 8th grades, I think). They have a full fledged football arena with a fabulous track around the field. A practice field, and two baseball diamonds - all lighted.

They have full-time coaches for football, basketball, baseball, softball, and I don't know what other sports.

Maury County closed its schools for one day last fall in a fight with the County Commission over funding. The County Commission caved in and gave them an additional $800,000.00 in addition to their $72 million dollar annual budget.

Ugh. Are there any adults left in the educational arena?

Tom in TN
 
Haven't you heard, we're a service based economy anymore, don't need industrial arts.

All you need to know is how to ask "you want fries with that?".

That was sarcasm, btw

Fred
 
I agree.

I got real unpopular at a recent school board meeting when they were discussing budget cuts and they asked for public input. I asked how many of their graduates went on to play college sports much less professional sports and how many went on to become welders, carpenters, plumbers and the like.

One board member (who is convinced his son is the next Payton Manning) told me how I couldn't look at it that way. I asked him how the **** are you supposed to look at it. He started talking about team work and work ethic then got mad as **** when I asked him if those weren't things he as a father should be teaching his son instead of some stranger he may or may not know.
 
(quoted from post at 14:42:30 03/14/11) I agree.

I got real unpopular at a recent school board meeting when they were discussing budget cuts and they asked for public input. I asked how many of their graduates went on to play college sports much less professional sports and how many went on to become welders, carpenters, plumbers and the like.

One board member (who is convinced his son is the next Payton Manning) told me how I couldn't look at it that way. I asked him how the **** are you supposed to look at it. He started talking about team work and work ethic then got mad as **** when I asked him if those weren't things he as a father should be teaching his son instead of some stranger he may or may not know.

You make a very good point, and to up the ante a bit, explain to me how being in the choir or marching band is NOT part of being a team?
 
Not to bad-mouth sports with my post, because I feel that sports CAN be beneficial. However, our school has always had a big push (and fan attendance) for sports.
I also have three kids who participate in scholar bowl contests. How many parents do you think attend that event?
Usually zero.....
 
I just remembered something from my high school days in the mid 60's; I graduated in 1965. Our history teacher was the football coach with a losing program. One day he was badmouthing the band and one of our trombone players who had been a footballer until a career ending knee injury came back with, "At least we win a few." (Our band had consistently been one of the top ranked ones in our part of NW Kansas.)
 
Some time ago, I asked one of the school officials when they were going to teach gun safety & maybe do some trap shooting ETC. Boy did I get some dirty looks!
 
(quoted from post at 19:19:14 03/14/11) Not to bad-mouth sports with my post, because I feel that sports CAN be beneficial. However, our school has always had a big push (and fan attendance) for sports.
I also have three kids who participate in scholar bowl contests. How many parents do you think attend that event?
Usually zero.....

Maybe you should go and then there would be a least one there.
 
(quoted from post at 16:24:12 03/14/11) Goose,

I live in Middle Tennessee near Spring Hill. The Maury County School System just opened a Middle School in Spring Hill (5th - 8th grades, I think). They have a full fledged football arena with a fabulous track around the field. A practice field, and two baseball diamonds - all lighted.

They have full-time coaches for football, basketball, baseball, softball, and I don't know what other sports.

Maury County closed its schools for one day last fall in a fight with the County Commission over funding. The County Commission caved in and gave them an additional $800,000.00 in addition to their $72 million dollar annual budget.

Ugh. Are there any adults left in the educational arena?

Tom in TN

In Kansas the county commission has nothing to do with school financing
 

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