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Caterpillar road grader value (Pict)

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Beatles65

02-14-2011 19:22:19
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Is there a high demand for road graders? A friend of mine who does a lot of scrapping got one in a job. I runs and drives so he was just going to drive it into the scrap yard to have it be crushed. We have considered buying it from him. Is there a high demand for Caterpillar road graders? He is asking scrap price for it. Is it worth the $3500 he wants for it?
He was saying that it was a 1968 model and was used for building terraces buy the owners. He said that the pony motor runs and so does the main motor. It also has all new glass in the cab. This is the only photo that I have of it but I am going to try and look at it this weekend. What can you tell me about this 1968 Caterpillar Road Grader?
Any and all info would be great!
Thanks for everything!
From Denton, Nebraska. Andrew Kean.

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d9gdon

02-15-2011 23:19:55
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 Re: Caterpillar road grader value (Pict) in reply to Beatles65, 02-14-2011 19:22:19  
JDseller,

Believe it or not, Cat 12 motor graders were mechanical lift and function until 1974 when the G series came out. Most of their competitors were hydraulic by then. Cat's reasoning for staying with mechanical operation was the distrust it had in hydraulics' ability to stay put without it leaking down, for lack of a better word to describe it.



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JDseller

02-15-2011 21:18:20
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 Re: Caterpillar road grader value (Pict) in reply to Beatles65, 02-14-2011 19:22:19  
That grader is a lot older than a 1968. It has the mechanical lift. They switched to hydraulics in about 1960. If would not be worth the $3500 around here, running or scrap. With the newer dozer"s having six way blades and laser controls those old graders don"t get used much around here anymore.



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Mike M

02-15-2011 08:33:18
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 Re: Caterpillar road grader value (Pict) in reply to Beatles65, 02-14-2011 19:22:19  
ALL THESE SCRAPPERS MAKE ME ILL !

I doubt very much he would get anywhere near that price accross the scales. Sure would be nice to see the weigh bill and the check though to verify.



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Old Magnet

02-15-2011 07:58:39
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 Re: Caterpillar road grader value (Pict) in reply to Beatles65, 02-14-2011 19:22:19  
Does look to be a #12 8T model with D318 engine, same as D6 tractors of that era, produced from 1947 - 1957. That's about the going price for a working unit



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Old Magnet

02-15-2011 08:06:49
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 Re: Caterpillar road grader value (Pict) in reply to Old Magnet, 02-15-2011 07:58:39  
Forgot to add.....shipping weight for the 8T #12 is 22,200 lbs....so that scrap price seems a little rich.



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Will- Tx.-Mn.

02-15-2011 04:49:16
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 Re: Caterpillar road grader value (Pict) in reply to Beatles65, 02-14-2011 19:22:19  
buy it!



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1970-1655

02-15-2011 04:48:18
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 Re: Caterpillar road grader value (Pict) in reply to Beatles65, 02-14-2011 19:22:19  
Current owner might be looking at what he can get for it at the scrap yard and setting the selling price at that. Yesterday, scrap yard by me was paying $330/ton for dirty engines and transmissions like the grader has. (Heavy cast iron) Hate to see one that good go to China as scrap iron. If you don't really need it, someone on Caterpillar site (ACMOC)or Construction Machinery Collectors might be interested. However, shipping should be considered also.

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VADAVE

02-15-2011 03:17:08
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 Re: Caterpillar road grader value (Pict) in reply to Beatles65, 02-14-2011 19:22:19  
Thet work pretty good for moving snow. A pony motor start in 1968?



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135 Fan

02-15-2011 10:41:03
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 Re: Caterpillar road grader value (Pict) in reply to VADAVE, 02-15-2011 03:17:08  
A lot of Cat machines still used a pony motor in 1968 but it appears that this grader is a lot older than 1968. Dave



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2x4

02-14-2011 23:57:42
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 Re: Caterpillar road grader value (Pict) in reply to Beatles65, 02-14-2011 19:22:19  
is it a tandem or single axle? Might be an old CAT 7T. They have D318 engine w/ gas pony motor. 6 cyl. Same engine went in the old D8 dozers.



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MeanGene1

02-15-2011 22:00:09
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 Re: Caterpillar road grader value (Pict) in reply to 2x4, 02-14-2011 23:57:42  
It does appear to be an 8T, looks like it has the front-mounted power steering. Poor picture, if you could see the main engine & sheetmetal the engine differences between a 7T and 8T could be seen- an 8T has the D318, like a D69U, but the 7T has the earlier small-bore engine. I ran a complete wretch of a 7T (serial # 345!) for almost 9 years, started that POS with a rope every day because my stepdad was too cheap to buy a new battery for it- and the generator actually worked. His excuse was always that "they" would steal the battery- he had a lot of conspiracy theories about "they". I kept the mag & carb up good so it would start on one pull, so I didn't have to climb back up there to wind the rope again
The starting controls for the 8T were moved up to a console beside the seat, instead of on the side like the 7T. Fuel filler was under the seat on the 7T, also, that one has the later external filler

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John A.

02-14-2011 21:20:32
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 Re: Caterpillar road grader value (Pict) in reply to Beatles65, 02-14-2011 19:22:19  
Beatles65, Buy it, Do not scrap it. There is a large demand for Pre-electronic Graders Dozers Back hoes to ship over seas! There are Equipment Jockeys looking, you just need to find one. Hope this helps
Later,
John A.



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ericlb

02-14-2011 20:07:23
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 Re: Caterpillar road grader value (Pict) in reply to Beatles65, 02-14-2011 19:22:19  
ranchers out here buy them to maintain their ranch roads, out here those roads can be anywhere from 5 to 25 miles or so long dont know if nebraska has quite the remotness of nm or tx or az, but the machine is probably worth the 3500 i wouldnt let it just go to scrap



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RodInNS

02-14-2011 20:07:17
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 Re: Caterpillar road grader value (Pict) in reply to Beatles65, 02-14-2011 19:22:19  
Well... I've seen somewhat newer Wabco's sell for 1000-2000 at auction and they were working machines with electric start.... I think he's pretty hopefull if he thinks it'll scrap out at 3500. Might get close to that if he cuts it himself for free...

Rod



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j hitkemper

02-14-2011 20:35:57
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 Re: Caterpillar road grader value (Pict) in reply to RodInNS, 02-14-2011 20:07:17  
no scrap ,, ship it to a rancher with a long driveway ,, puttin a price on everthing and a value o n nuthin is killing the soul of this country



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Mark - IN.

02-14-2011 20:00:13
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 Re: Caterpillar road grader value (Pict) in reply to Beatles65, 02-14-2011 19:22:19  
That sure is slick looking. There is one for sale near me just over the Michigan border thats been setting there for a year or so. Would be nice, but has to be a need for it.

There's one piece of equipment by me that I'd love to have had, but year after year of setting abandoned, people stop and tear it up more and more. Was a digger made by Allis Chalmers with an enclosed cab. Basically, is like a good sized backhoe and bucket up front, drive tractor tires up front, small stering tires and small 4 cylinder engine in the rear. A few years ago, that would have been fun to restore, but now with the vandalism, broken windows, torn off sheet metal...

Mark

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Jimmy King

02-14-2011 19:52:55
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 Re: Caterpillar road grader value (Pict) in reply to Beatles65, 02-14-2011 19:22:19  
My Dad bought a 212 about 1970 for $400 it was about a 1948 or 49. The Pony didn"t run when he bought it, but all that was wrong with it he found out was the V belt from the starter to the pony was full of dirt at the pully he cleaned it out and and put a a on battery on it and it started with new gas in it. He did have to overhaul the 4 Cyl Diesel eng. at a cost of $400. we used it for several years cleaning up behind a D6 Dozer. Then he sold it in the early 1980"s for $2500. It did not have a cab or power steering. What size is the one you are looking at?

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jm.

02-14-2011 19:52:21
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 Re: Caterpillar road grader value (Pict) in reply to Beatles65, 02-14-2011 19:22:19  
8 T pure mechanical early 50s.. two big questions do you need it and does it have power steering. With power steering they were a monster to use in close quarters. Bought a pretty nice one no cab (But has power steering) pony motor does not run. Paid $ 2400.00 Don,t think you would make any money but if you need a grader might work.



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Roy Ward

02-14-2011 19:44:23
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 Re: Caterpillar road grader value (Pict) in reply to Beatles65, 02-14-2011 19:22:19  
If the tires hold air and have some tread thats a good point.
Next question is the blade controlled by HYD cylinders and not mechincal screw jacks. If so it's worth around $6000.00.

If the blade is all mechincal then about $4000.00

Hope this helps you



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Billy NY

02-14-2011 19:43:42
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 Re: Caterpillar road grader value (Pict) in reply to Beatles65, 02-14-2011 19:22:19  
Thats a shame to scrap....nice machine to have at ones disposal for that price.



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John Eatwell

02-14-2011 19:42:24
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 Re: Caterpillar road grader value (Pict) in reply to Beatles65, 02-14-2011 19:22:19  
I believe that the grader is a lot older than 1968. Probably in the 1950's. If it runs good, it might be worth the 3500.00. A 1968 would be direct start, not pony motor start. It looks like 8t series from the pictures, which makes it early 50's'



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Doug in IL

02-15-2011 04:54:40
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 Re: Caterpillar road grader value (Pict) in reply to John Eatwell, 02-14-2011 19:42:24  
That's what I thought too. 1950's vintage.



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