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Hydraulic Dump Bed?s

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1941FarmallAboy

02-09-2011 16:03:02
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I have a 1971 Ford F-350 DRW, At one time it had a dump bed on it, but when I bought the truck the guy took it off. I still have the PTO,
I've seen so many setups im now lost, In have no clue what to buy!
I had a guy tell me get two Hydraulic Cyl setup, but one guy said don't!
Some people say go to 12volt pump setup, or the scissor setup.

Whats your take on this stuff?
I have been looking at this,
www.piercesales.com/Items.aspx?code=DUMPKIT&key=cat
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1941FarmallAboy

02-11-2011 16:53:11
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 Re: Hydraulic Dump Bed?s in reply to 1941FarmallAboy, 02-09-2011 16:03:02  
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1941FarmallAboy

02-10-2011 15:47:46
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 Re: Hydraulic Dump Bed?s in reply to ben brown, 02-09-2011 16:03:02  
That one I was looking at is 1400 1500$ I guess thats not to bad in the end! Save a lot of time!



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redFarmallboy

02-10-2011 11:20:32
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 Re: Hydraulic Dump Bed?s in reply to 1941FarmallAboy, 02-09-2011 16:03:02  

Never had a problem with our single cylinder with 12V pump on our F350. Dumps a full stacked load with ease and haven't had any problems running the batteries down or anything. Even haul 10 - 12 foot logs on it sometimes and it still works great.



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1941FarmallAboy

02-10-2011 09:34:19
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 Re: Hydraulic Dump Bed?s in reply to Larry62, 02-09-2011 16:03:02  

LOU from Wi. said: (quoted from post at 03:51:55 02/10/11) Farmall boy,

We went thru the same troubles you have went thru, we bought a used 75 Ford 1 ton, took the old cattle box off, doubled the frame for strength, and set up a pivot for a dump box.Now after a while of using it as a standard fixed bed, we looked at PTO pump for the transmission, a scissor lift, and various other concoctions,but went for our route. Which is buy a single acting pump,motor and tank thru Dalton Hydraulics, get two hydraulic cylinders(single acting)from our 706 when we re did the loader arm assembly, and appropriate hyd. hoses and wiring. I will post a picture of ours,and must say, it is easier using a dump bed than having to manually unload the material from the bed by hand.Hope this helps,and if you need additional information, we will be glad to help.

LOU & Victor

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must say, it is easier using a dump bed than having to manually unload the material from the bed by hand

Thats why I need a dumpbed! No more unloading firewood by hand or unloading sawdust! It takes for ever!
What size is the Cyls on your setup?

IN Northern tools when your looking at the Hydraulic Cyls there is a 2inch bore with a 16inch stroke, and shaft size is 1 1/8th WHAT IS the bore?
I'm trying to lurn every thing I can about the setups before I buy or make somthing
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135 Fan

02-10-2011 11:00:02
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 Re: Hydraulic Dump Bed?s in reply to 1941FarmallAboy, 02-10-2011 09:34:19  
The bore is the size of the hole in the tube for the inner piston just like in an engine. If you want to make your own hoist, I'd suggest using a commercially available hoist like a scissor lift that already has the right size of cylinder required for the size of the truck. You could run into all kinds of problems trying to design your own hoist. Dave



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Bill in IL

02-10-2011 05:58:49
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 Re: Hydraulic Dump Bed?s in reply to 1941FarmallAboy, 02-09-2011 16:03:02  
I have built 2 single axle trailers for use around the farm and paid 40-50 bucks to buy used scisor hoists for them. In my case I just run hydraulics from the tractor. Makes setting up the lift really simple.



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LOU from Wi.

02-09-2011 18:51:55
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 Re: Hydraulic Dump Bed?s in reply to 1941FarmallAboy, 02-09-2011 16:03:02  

Farmall boy,
We went thru the same troubles you have went thru, we bought a used 75 Ford 1 ton, took the old cattle box off, doubled the frame for strength, and set up a pivot for a dump box.Now after a while of using it as a standard fixed bed, we looked at PTO pump for the transmission, a scissor lift, and various other concoctions,but went for our route. Which is buy a single acting pump,motor and tank thru Dalton Hydraulics, get two hydraulic cylinders(single acting)from our 706 when we re did the loader arm assembly, and appropriate hyd. hoses and wiring. I will post a picture of ours,and must say, it is easier using a dump bed than having to manually unload the material from the bed by hand.Hope this helps,and if you need additional information, we will be glad to help.
LOU & Victor

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Wardner

02-09-2011 20:21:05
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 Re: Hydraulic Dump Bed?s in reply to LOU from Wi., 02-09-2011 18:51:55  
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Scissor lifts are very versatile and strong. They are made in various capacities. I put this one in backwards so that the tank would go vertical. Kinda expensive though. I think this one cost over $1000 more than 20 years ago. It is double acting. Yep, you will also have to get a reservoir and valve.

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ericlb

02-09-2011 18:51:42
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 Re: Hydraulic Dump Bed?s in reply to 1941FarmallAboy, 02-09-2011 16:03:02  
ive got a '83 1 ton with a hydraulic dump owned it since new,also have a kenworth dump truck [ for sale cheap, i need money] after running dump trucks from, 6 wheels to 22, on and off for over 3 decades heres my take for what its worth, 1 ton duallys and tag along trailers, electric over hydraulic, with a sissors hoist, there lighter in weight less stress on the truck frame and more stable on a pickup chassis, meduim duty trucks can go with that too or a front mounted hoist single cylinder without exception, a twin cylinder may be slightly more stable but they have a built in flaw that under the right conditions can get somebody killed, class 7 and 8 tandem trucks, front mounted hoist on spring suspension or chalmers style suspension,non- air ride, semi end dumps, front cylinder, with a very experinced operator they will turn over easy use a belly dump if the material allows, [ you can turn a belly dump over too, but the goober has to work at it]

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wijim

02-09-2011 16:38:03
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 Re: Hydraulic Dump Bed?s in reply to 1941FarmallAboy, 02-09-2011 16:03:02  
go with the scissors lift. I have an 8ft I would like to get rid of. Jim



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135 Fan

02-09-2011 16:13:58
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 Re: Hydraulic Dump Bed?s in reply to 1941FarmallAboy, 02-09-2011 16:03:02  
Either way will work. PTO systems don't usually use a filter like a normal hyd. system but will be much faster than an electric over hyd. system. I think 1 cylinder hoist would work fine on a 1 ton truck. A scissor lift would work fine too. They usually give more dump angle. Dave



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jddriver

02-09-2011 16:37:46
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 Re: Hydraulic Dump Bed?s in reply to 135 Fan, 02-09-2011 16:13:58  
all of ours pto's use a filter dont know why you think this???????????????????



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135 Fan

02-09-2011 17:28:59
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 Re: Hydraulic Dump Bed?s in reply to jddriver, 02-09-2011 16:37:46  
Commercial dump trucks and end dumps usually have a filter but most grain trucks and single axle dump trucks don't have a filter because they aren't being used all the time. I've had a couple trucks with twin cylinder hoists that had no filter. They had a small reservoir and held the rest of the oil on the other side of cylinders. You basically moved the oil from one side of the cylinders to the other. Dave

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BCnT

02-09-2011 16:47:32
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 Re: Hydraulic Dump Bed?s in reply to jddriver, 02-09-2011 16:37:46  
i've got a old county Chevy C65 with a Gallion pto dump bed on it...no filter or external tank...fluid stores in outer cylinder.



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Janicholson

02-09-2011 16:20:16
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 Re: Hydraulic Dump Bed?s in reply to 135 Fan, 02-09-2011 16:13:58  
I agree with these thoughts. Jim



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