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Keith Molden

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I have a New Holland 270 Baler for sale on Craigs List. Fellow called me this evening wanting to buy it, no problem so far. Now comes the problem, I'm in S.E. Ohio & he wants me to see if I can find a trucking company that will haul it to San Diego County, California. I'm not too bright but the way I figure it, the cost of shipping would be far more than the cost of the baler. I can't see where the cost of balers is that much higher there than here. Now not knocking any nationality, but he sounded very spanish by his talk. Needless to say, before it leaves my property, I'll have CASH in hand ie a good check that has cleared the bank. I'm asking 1400 on craigs for it, so the price is a wee bit on the premium side (room to haggle over price). Just sounds kinda fishy to me. What do you guys think? Keith
 
Just tell him if he's serious, to bring you the money and he needs to figure out how to get it to his place. Also have it written that he has to have it moved within a certain time frame, like 30 days or he forfits his money and it will be resold. Dave
 
because hes in the states id at least give him the benefit of the doubt but i wouldnt hold it for him or ship till you got cash in hand usually those type of people are overseas
 
Just because a check clears the bank doesn't mean it is good. It will take up to 6 weeks for it to come back "bounced".

Craigslist has a warning to deal with local buyers, otherwise you are at risk of getting scammed. Don't have any more "talks" with this person. DOUG
 
In God we trust, everyone else pays cash.

Our credit manager is Helen Wait. If you want credit, go to Hellen wait.
 
Tell him it is as in where is and shipping is his problem plus you only take cash so he pays now or it is still for sale. If you let him send a check be sure it clears first and hope it is good because if it is not good it will cost you $30 or so
 
'They' found ways to take out a money order, replicate it, send the copy, and it will take longer to clear. Your bank will say it's good; then an extra week later it turns out it isn't good when the real one comes through, and you are out the money.

Might not have that all right, but sorta how it was explained to me.

Money orders aren't any safer than any other scam these days from what I understand....

--->Paul
 
Scares me--I wouldn't waste anymore time with him.
There's tons of scams, ALOT on Craigslist, and they're always comin' up with new ones.
That's awful far to ship, that's got red flags all over it.

Just my opinion. Hate to see ya get burned.
 
Forget the checks, money orders, bank drafts. As you said: "Cash in hand."

And I think I'd make the transaction at my bank, just to be sure. If he don't want to comply, you've still got a baler.

Paul
 
Money orders used to be issued by the post office, the original given to the purchaser, the duplicate sent to the paying postoffice by mail by the issuing postoffice. when the original is presented, it is matched with the duplicate. that sounds secure.
 
6 weeks is a good rule of thumb for clearing checks, 2 months may be better. I think that in the states, it's at least 30 days and offshore is longer. As I recall, they have 45 days to cancel a credit card payment. Even though your bank may let the amount of the deposit be available to you for withdrawal, it is provisional by the bank. They can pull it back and leave you stuck. They do it often enough around here. Bank and post office cashier's checks and money orders can be faked so easy now with the latest printers, then the buyer comes up with an emergency and needs quick shipping. Lots of stuff bought here and hauled to mexico so you can't trace the buyer or the property. The interetates in Texas are a steady procession of stuff headed to the border.

I'd think about Western Union where you can go down and pick up the cash. Or maybe he pay by paypal to your email account but I'm not sure what Paypal's rules are for provisional releases of funds. I know one wealthy individual with numerous accounts at a small town bank, has a free wire transfer account. Bank clears the money out instantly on receipt. Otherwise once a scammer has you account number, they can keep drawing on it.

Caller ID spoof warning. Been hearing on the news and checked the web. Sure enough, there are all kinds of places you can sign up and get a spoof caller ID. Can't trust those anymore. Google it.
 
I'm not a scammer and don't know how it works, but I was told once that just by processing the check and having it bounce, allows them to get you personal info.
 
Most likely the same guy that was trying to buy the tractor I never had. Said it was needed in Spain. He tried to buy equipment from some others also.

Just remember if you send him the baler and the check bounces. Which it most likely will. You are out the money and the baler.
 
The way it works is, he'll come up with a trucking company, will send a check for the baler plus shipping, instruct you to cash it, keep the baler money and send the shipping money via Western Union to the shipper (who is, of course, his buddy). The check will eventually bounce, and you'll be out the cash you sent the "shipper".

Of course, there is no shipper, and you won't lose your baler- the last thing they want is a baler. The technique used to be that the buyer already had a shipper- but that's too suspicious. So him asking you to find a shipper is a nice touch- when you do, and call or email him, he will have been working the problem too, and will just happen to have come up with someone else who is less money than yours.
 
Thanks to all who responded. The way I figure it, @ $3.00 per mile the shipping alone would be a little over $7,000.00. I figured it is a total scam but thought you guys would get a chuckle out of it as I did. The baler ain't leaving here wothout the green in my pocket. Keith
 
Those illegal aliens are slick.

Dont send the Baler, if he calls again then
tell him you are calling the INS on him.
 
A friend of mine sold a bit of equipment to a guy and lady of "spanish" decent..

They always showed up when they said they would to pick stuff up.. always brought cash.. They bought some drills, planters, plows, wagons.. He never asked a question..

When they started buying tractors, or asking about buying, he asked what they were doing with the stuff..

They told him that they were exporting it to Mexico, He claimed that decent used equipment was hard to come by, so he moved to the states (Believe this guy was from the Chicago, IL area) and would buy equipment, and handle everything, then have it trucked to Mexico where he had a dealer of sorts selling the stuff.

Not saying you have or don't have a scammer.. just saying there are some legit people who might seem a little fishy.. cause the story I just told seems fishy to me still today..

Brad
 
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