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camju

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All this talk about labour got me thinkin(not a good idea)



Do you people think that a child coming from a larger family grows up faster and is more responsable at a younger age than from small families?

It seems to me that when there are more children close together that the older ones have to learn to help alot sooner.When mom has the third child in 3-4 years the 3-4 yr old has to wash dishes sweep the floor ETC.When they have to work (because mom's to busy) they learn alot more responsability at a early age.

When there are only 1 or 2 children and they are 3-4 years apart it seems like the parents tend to do everything for there kids and they don't realy do alot till there older.
 
I am the second of two kids spaced four years apart, and we both have helped from a young age. I've been a full time volunteer since I was 15 and I am now 24. I personally think it has more to do with what the parent expects of the child and how they go about bringing the child up.
Zach
 
Zach you hit the nail on the head, my wife is a teacher and she says you can MOST times tell the kids that have parents that give them direction and those that just let them run. Lots of parents that are simply not doing the job they signed up for and not teaching them by example. Now I do think that it is true in some bigger famlies that the kids take on roles out of neccesity but it really actually comes from example. Have four kids myself and they know what is expected and they do it- dont always like it and I sometimes hear that this friend or that one doesnt have to do that! My reply is that they would if they lived here.
 
I come from a family that had 12 children.I was the fourth born.We all had some tasks to do everyday.I think my younger siblings had it easier as we got older and moved out of the house.

Vito
 
Due to some facts, I was not the best parent for my youngest son. Because of the revolving door issues with a divorce. I simply could not be as demanding as I would have liked to have been. I was awarded primary care of a two year old in the state of Iowa eighteen years ago--unheard of at the time.

I personaly think us parents are to blame for not teaching resonsability -- end of sentence, large or small families can drift both ways, but I think large families kinda hold the edge.
 
My late mom was the second oldest from 13 kids.
My granddad worked them in the fields since he was a share cropper in southwestern VA. He thought an education was a waste of time and none of them graduated from high school. I told her once that slavery never ended since he used his kids in the fields and kept them out of school. All her brothers were over 6-feet tall and never played basketball or any other sport. Where it really hurt them when they went out in the working world. Lack of a highschool eduction kept them from being promoted. One worked at a tire factory in Ohio for 40 years. None of them ever had any run in's with the law. On the other side of the family my late dad's parents sent all of their 3 sons to college. When they finished school they all left home and only went back for a visit. I was 19 when grandmom died and I only saw her 3 or 4 times in that period of time.
We only had the one daughter and she was born at Ft Bragg when I was in the Army and she helped to mow grass on weekends when I was working a lot of overtime. She also did well in school and is now a Nurse Practitioner. She never married and is 56. She has her own home near Baltimore. Hal
 
Yup. It really pains me to hear a parent belittling their child. Tell a kid they're no good and that's what you'll get, tell the kid they're wonderful and you'll get that instead.
 
That's a rather interesting question. In my experience I would lean more to larger families. In our case our children are 3-4 years apart and the way that worked out here is that with such a difference in age the children were of real help, both to us as parents and with those who were younger than themselves.

But more than this I would say the answer lies more in the following.

It goes without saying (except to a large majority who would instantly and triumphantly point to the idea that such things do not apply in all cases) that what I am about to say does not apply in all cases. That being said certain attributes of parents and children stand out so frequently and more or less predictably as to be able to make a generalization of them.

A significant and increasing number of parents are note worthy in that they possess no overarching vision for the upbringing of children or the role of the family. The raising of children is not seen as a Creator given mandate and what feeds and nourishes such a view has been forgotten, to be replaced by a differing vision of children being just one more thing on the bucket list to accomplish before we die. Part of a living a "complete" life, "having it all" or as I have often heard expressed, an "experience which I don't want to miss out on."

In the modern age raising children is no longer under scored by the idea of raising them to be responsible, mature adults who strive to manifest the attributes of their creator. Rather they are all too often seen as small people who are to be indulged, spoiled and entertained. Who among us had not been witness to scenes of overweight children so engrossed in texting some endless and meaningless message on their cell phones that they have no awareness of the people and events around them. Or likewise children who evince no interest in exploring ideas, events or the world outside their doors, contenting themself rather with a steady diet of that evenings sitcoms, "reality" shows, or embarrassing portrayals of man or womanhood such as those demonstrated by an endless parade of phonies in such dramatized and staged sideshows as smackdown wrestling. A world of standards of maturity, character and romance have been replaced by counterfits in which children are saturated by unrealistic circumstances, tabloid imagery and irresponsible secs with no consequences.

These same children grow up to be adults who lack a developed sense of ideas, sacrifice or a sense of time and principals beyond themselves and their immediate feeling. Character isn't developed by hearing an ideal voiced. It is ingrained by sacrifice in the face of difficulty. Difficulties are not resolved in a tidy half hour as they are in a nightly sitcom, but rather situations and adversities very often must be struggled with or endured, sometimes for the entire course of our lives. In real life, people do not flit from one circumstance of comic mishap, lucky outcomes and fortunate events. Things that are important almost always require focus, effort, attention and the decision to choose one thing and not another.

Modern democratic society which is merely the composite of what is deemed acceptable to the majority has become a stress filled triage between work, home and family in which those less critical issues are jettisoned to make room for those farther up on the panic list. Society isn't going to change without a restoration of what is important and why. That change is taught most fundamentally within the family and good examples within.
 
I think it really depends on the parents and the kids. My ex babies our son when she has him, he's 11 and she still does most everything for him. When he's with me he does most stuff for himself. My only real frame of direct reference is for me. Im an only child, learned to drive when I was 6, cook when I was 7, and was doing hay on my own at 13. Was never an issue, most of my friends were adults. My mom cared for her mother who had alzheimers and worked full time, dad was in school administration and taught college classes at night plus farming. It wasnt a traditional childhood but I think I ended up being way more responsible a lot younger than most.
 

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