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Another rear mounted tiller question or two.

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OK Guys and Gals, I"m trying to revisit the tiller idea while the dealers are in the bargain mood while their windows are frosted over and customers become non exsistant. We have a dealer that handles Land Pride is that a good brand? Never heard of them website says their headquarters is Salinas Kansas are they an exporter or are they built in the USA? Second thing is they are a reverse rotation tiller which I like because it needs pulled not held back and what about rocks? I"m not afraid to say I"m dumber than a box of rocks when it comes to tractor mounted tillers so any help would be appreciated. Also how about adjustable offset versus fixed center? I have an AC5020 rated at 22hp pto and weighs in at 2100# dry no extra weights rear wheel drive only. Oh they also offer several colors including AC orange. Thanks in advance!CT
 
I've got a King Kutter I bought at Tractor Supply. Five foot with slip clutch and it mounts with an offset. Not reverse rotation, but I have no idea what difference that makes unless you've got a tiny tractor and are worried about being pushed. Here in my area of NY, probably 3/4 of the soil is big rocks. That had me worried but the tiller has handled them fine. That because of the slip clutch. When I bought mine, I also looked at a few Land Pride tillers. Not sure if they're better worse, but they were kind of pricey. This King Kutter looks very rugged, made down south in the USA, and I paid $700 for it - which was a pretty good deal. It was the last one they had and weren't selling them anymore.
 
5020 should pull a 48" no problem. Get the one that you can offset to one side or the other. Here's why: let us suppose you go clockwise, tilling your garden, each time. You will start to pile up dirt, on one side of the garden. If you can slide the tiller to the other side of the tractor, and go counter clockwise, you can alternate directions, thereby avoiding the dirtpile. You can do this anyway, but having a sliding tiller, expands your options. As to rock problems, most tillers have a shearbolt, that breaks, should a rock gum up the works. Reverse direction tillers shoot the rocks forward, standard direction tillers shoot them backwards. the best tiller tractors are those that have creeper gears near 1/2 mph.
 
Shoot me an e-mail and I will fill you in. Been selling Land Pride for years. One of very few tillers made in usa. Most are imported. Nothing better. You will be hard pressed to pull the reverse tine unit with your tractor. Give me a
e-mail address and I will call you and try to help. Jerry.
 
Three years ago I bought a 56" Caroni brand tiller. It's Italian made, and I don't know how they compare to others, but it seems to be a well built machine. I run it behind a 311 Case with the triple range box, and it pulls nicely in compound low. I paid $1600 if I remember right. I don't till large amounts of ground with it, but I haven't had any problems with it so far.
 
I was going to mention my 5020 has the 12spd option with 4spds under one mile an hour so it should be able to turn the dirt into powder. As far as off center how about should I look at counterweighting like if far to the left will it make the right tire light? How about adding weights front and rear?
 
Cadet - Years ago I bought a used BEFCO for my TC21D. It works great, and only cost a few hundred $. It seems that you can buy used tillers in great shape because people buy them and don't really use them much. Just look at the wear & condition of the tines. The BEFCO can easily be offset if you need to get over close to some grape vines or under some growth. I run it straight back, as it covers my tire tracks. It is not reverse rotation, but I don't think that means all that much, at least in IL soil. Hydrostatic drive certainly is nice, but maybe your low-low gears will work too. Good luck, Steve
 
Landpride makes some good equipment. I had a Woods brand tiller. I would also look at those as many dealers also handle them.
 
I run a 48" with a 1715 NH It is a 27HP with 9 speed trans 3X3 bottom speed is less than 1/2 MPH . I realy don't think you need a counter rotating the one that rotates the same way as the tractor tires does just fine. Two trips over the garden and it will be as fine as you want it.
 
My brother was pulling a 6 ft New Holland behind his WD45, and snapped the main shaft. The book said that each year you should loosen the bolts on the slip clutch to verify that it will slip and then tighten them back up to the proper tension. Of course he had never done that. About $575 for the shaft if I remember right.

Hope everyone has better luck than we had.
SDE
 
I have a mid 1990s 58" Caroni that had been returned as a fellow with a N series Ford found that he had too much speed and too little HP for it. Got it for a really good price.

I use it behind my 1720 Ford in sandy soil. Have hit a hidden brick or two from an old home site but no damage so never any parts needed.

Would like to clarify--it is Salina, KS not Salinas which is more like the California city.

Reputation has always been excellent and they are indeed made in KS. I have a rotary mower of that brand.

I didn't know who all they were selling color matching implements to but the Whitewater, KS Kubota dealer has a lot full of Landpride in Kubota orange.
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Ford 1720 with Caroni tiller, rear view.
 
Land Pride makes a good product but there are lots of good tillers. I found Land Pride to be more expensive than equal tillers from other manufacturers. Maschio probably makes the best HD tiller but you'd never lift it with a 22 HP tractor let alone run it. With 22 HP, I dont think a reverse rotation would work very well either. For 22 HP, you wouldn't want any bigger than a 48" tiller and even smaller if you want to till hard ground or sod. You need a slow first gear as well. Dave
 
Good brand.

4 foot would be enough for your tractor.

Offset.

Don't worry about weighting your tractor - will be fine.

Direction of rotation won't matter much.

--->Paul
 
Unless it weighs as much as a Howard, you should be fine with a standard befco, caroni, or landpride tiller, weight distribution-wise. I run a 42 befco on a 22 hp kubota, it could easily run a 48', both weight-wise, and power-wise. I just can't seem to wear out the one I have had for about 15 years!
 
Thanks Y"all for your replies. It appears that no doubt the Land Pride tiller is commercial grade and after it was mentioned to be the old Great Plains Co. that makes sense they also had a new maybe 5" 3pt lawn interseeder I don"t think my tractor could even pick it up. I just wanted to put my 5020 to some useful purpose rather than take up space.
 
Same tractor I have, except mine had Ford emblem on the hood. Whats that on the hood next to the exhaust stack?
 
I have a counter rotating woods about 50 51 inch. It has a slip clutch instead of a shear bolt. I used to borrow one from a friend that had a shear bolt and a slip clutch is a must.
I pull it with a 18-20 hp JD750. It takes out the ag tire tracks but a side shift would be nice. The 750 is a gear drive and works ok but a hydro would be a little better and have full time pto.
 
The object in question is a magnetic based CB antenna. I used it to align with a row marker as I wanted the rows straight for vegetable crop appearance.
 
Don't worry about it, I use a 58" counter rotating Land Pride (RTR1558)behind my 20 HP 2wd JD 750......with turf tires. And, if you shop around dealers, the Land Prides are pretty comparable $ to the others. Jim
 
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