Auger Power Requirements

1 Dollar · Oct 4, 2009

What do you guys estimate to be the general ballpark on the power requirements of a 10 inch by 71 foot auger with a mechanical drag? How small of a tractor can you put on it and still have it be effective/worthwile and not painfully slow?

Thanks

Fordfarmer · Oct 4, 2009

I dunno how to figure how much h.p. it would need,but it will be a bunch. My 6"x45' can be a load for my Jubilee (31 h.p.) with oats... and yours is going to be moveing a LOT more grain/weight. I wouldn't try anything less than 70 h.p. (which means I'd use one of my 85 horse tractors, as I don't have anything between 52 and 85 h.p.)

phillip d · Oct 4, 2009

We ran our 8x52 very easily with our MH 333d,it's only about 30 hp.I know of one guy who has a similar augger that he runs with a 10 hp electric.The augger has a steerable cart and you talk about a slick setup.Uses it inside,no exhaust fumes and extremly portable.

Bill(Wis) · Oct 4, 2009

65 PTO HP according to Westfield.

farmer boy · Oct 4, 2009

I would say about 55-60 Hp would be worked with that right full. I know that for 13x71 I would want about 90-100 HP to run it to it's full capacity. I have run both a 10x71 and 13x71 but I'm not so sure the 10" was ever fully loaded. The 13x71 was never fully loaded but that's becasue 80 HP would stall at full load. Also depends on what you have in it. My experience was with about 18% corn.

SMA in NE · Oct 4, 2009

I ran a 10 X 71 with my 450 Farmall. It pulled it fine.

billonthefarm · Oct 4, 2009

That is a 3020 on a 10-62. Not our normal auger tractor. It does a adequate job but you can put a load on it if you try. I would think on a 71' auger this would be a absolute bare minimum for hp.
bill

paul · Oct 4, 2009

Angle - how steep - and the type of crop -soybeans, dry corn, wet corn, wheat - all makes a huge difference on the pull of it. I think the fellas have good numbers below, on easy pulling crops or shallow angle you can be on the low side, with wet corn or maxed out steep you better head towards the high side.

--->Paul

fixerupper · Oct 4, 2009

What brand are you talking? How high is the bin? What kind of grain? What's the moisture?

Some brands pull easier than others, and I don't know why. Maybe the flighting angle or distance between flighting and tube?

My neighbor uses a 656 gas on his 10X71 Westfield without a problem.

A Westfield 13X71 will put about a 90 HP load on a 1086 filling a tall bin with 18% corn, but an Oliver 88 can handle it for augering 15% corn back out of the bin lowered way down to fill a truck. It does blow the carbon out of the old 88, though. Jim

Bill(Wis) · Oct 4, 2009

Westfield's website has the "required horsepower" for every auger they make on their spec page for those who are interested.

John e.c.MI · Oct 4, 2009

We load out of bins with a JD 790(27hp) compact on a Westfield 10x71 no problem. We use a 2555(65hp) when filling the wet bin though because we also run a small incline auger that is hydraulic drive.

1 Dollar · Oct 4, 2009

We would be running soybeans, angle is "average". The auger is up but not maxed out by any means. Less than half up. Its a Hutchinson auger I believe.

Loosely considering picking up a little 1940 JD B (a hopeful 25hp) and was looking to see if absolutely necessary it could do the job to kinda justify the purchase lol. Not doing it fast, but still doing it.

Thanks

Clodbuster · Oct 4, 2009

I run a JD 2440 diesel, 60hp, and a hyd hopper Westfield 10-71 and I would not want less hp. In a pinch we have run a JD 4520 with a 1000 to 540 pto adapter and idled down. That big JD will barely get the job done at the low RPM. That 4520 has no low end grunt at all! That bad day we had to hook the hyd up to a Case 2594 to run the hopper as the 4520 did not have the capacity to flow for the hopper.

JMS/.MN · Oct 5, 2009

Just curious if anyone has a chart showing using an 8x50, dumping wet corn into a 29 foot tall wet bin that feeds a dryer. Currently has a 7 1/2 hp on the 8x50. Currently constructing this setup- can go to a 10 hp if needed on the 8x50- it will be fed from an underground dump pit with an 8 inch jump auger, 5 hp minimum, 7 1/2 if necessary.

big jt · Oct 5, 2009

Here is what I do in a similiar situation.

We run a 10 x either 65 or 71 foot Fetrl with a 1950 JD A. Tractor is strong but not souped up. If I want to I can kill the tractor but I control how much goes in. Just put a mark on all the wagons to know where to open the gate to. If I exceed it very much the tractor will bog down. Came real close to making that mistake the first time we got that auger. Don"t know how much more the auger would take if we had the ponies on it but it seems to be a nice match.

Oh we are filling a 10,000 bu bin with 18 foot sides, wet corn but haven"t put up anything much over 20% with it.

I have had people tell me our A wouldn"t be enough but it is, just need to be careful, lucky I don"t have any hired help. To that end I think a B would really be pushing it.

Really swallows the corn and we can"t leave a 300 bu wagon unattended coz it will be empty by the time you turn around.

big jt · Oct 5, 2009

I have seen them and my have one in my old College books.

Better bet is to get a hold of a grain handling equipment dealer as they will have the needed info you want.

billonthefarm · Oct 5, 2009

I guess everybody has a different opinion. This is a 4010 diesel running the same 10-62 with about 22% corn up to a 10k bu bin. It isnt maxed out but it is working.
bill

Anonymous-0 · Oct 5, 2009

10X70 swing hopper augers around here, 36'bins. Late console 3020 can be killed dead in its tracks if corn above 22% and you give auger all it can take. Dryer corn or soybeans and the 3020 works ok. 4020/4230 is what we normally use. That way we always have enough power.I have seen the 4020/4230 bellar and smoke if corn is wet and auger is full. I could scoop a wagon off faster than a B could unload it--you are asking for trouble.

Dan-IA · Oct 5, 2009

I've never seen an auger that my Super C would have any trouble turning. I imagine wet corn may make a lot of difference but otherwise I don't consider an auger to pull much of a load regardless of length, diameter, or pitch.

Dan-IA · Oct 5, 2009

In fact I just saw a 10x61 listed over on agrinews for 20HP.

Bill(Wis) · Oct 5, 2009

Possibly referring to electric drive. 20 HP tractor would run it empty and then you'd have to be real careful about loading it up.

Dan-IA · Oct 5, 2009

Electric drive? If electric motors run 1800rpm and PTOs run 540, do they build the electric models with a 3:1 reducing gearbox inline?

Dan-IA · Oct 5, 2009

Why the adapter, does a 4520 not have a 540 shaft? Because if you could connect it direct I would think it should perform a little better cuz you can get your engine speed back up some.

JMS/.MN · Oct 6, 2009

4520 is about two sizes two big for the 540 shaft. 4430, at 125 hp, still had the 540/1000 combo. 4320 is also 1000 only.

JMS/.MN · Oct 6, 2009

Nope- drive and driven pulleys convert to 540, then through a 1:1 right angle gearbox, or mount the driven pulley on the auger shaft, with the motor mounted above.

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