PUTTING TWINE IN BALER

HI I havea new holland 565 baler and it is going to need twine before second cutting , now last year I tied the balls of twine together and well I had bad results

It ended up breaking my baler so i was wondering if there are any special tricks to tying the balls of twine together ????? last year I had to get a service call to the field to repair knotters that broke.

Any help would be great as it is almost time for the second cutting here in ohio.
thanks Greg

We take the tag end from 1st ball (one you been using)- outside end and tie to the center strand on the new ball. We tie the tightest square knot we can, and then take the leading end of the stub from the knot, and cut it short, (about an inch) and then untwist the twine just ahead of the knot just enough to insert stub into that twine. Then twist it back up. Idea is to try to make the knot as small and streamlined as possible, so it will pass through the guides and hole in needle with minimum chance of catching. Most of the time it works well. Sometimes it doesn't, and we end up having to rethread from scratch. Rarely does the knot end up going thru the knotter mechanism. I don't know how things broke on your baler, that shouldn't happen. Did you thread things properly in the twine box, according to the diagram in the manual? You do have a manual?

xcsp,

I have a New Holland 273 twine baler. I do just what RayP suggested about tieing a square knot and trying to get it as small and smoothe as possible. The one other thing that I"d add to that is that I use my knife and reduce the size of the twine where I"m going to make the knot by running the twine between my thumb and knife blade a few times to remove some stands of the twine. I do that starting about two inches back from the ends of the twine. That helps make the knot even smaller.

It usually works but sometimes the knot still gets hung up in the knotter and has to be cut out.

Tom in TN

I do like others have said. Square knot good and tight and cut the ends of the twine close to the knot and have never had a problem. Bud

Good square knot, pull tight, real tight. Place between hands and rub/roll palms togather, pull it tight again. make sure the ends are trimmed close. The rubbing/rolling should reduce the size to the strand size or very near. Works for me. Good luck

Like the others said use a Square knot and keep it small ... as I reminder we also put some grease [ not much ] on the knot to help it slide thur easyer...
Mark

There is a knot that works most of the time, lets see if I can describe it, came from an old timer I knew in my youth. You start out tying a square knot, or just like you are tying your shoe... then you take the two ends of the twine, and fray them back, so they are loose and fluffy. Then you mesh these two fluffy ends together, as if you were trying to insert one piece of twine into the end of the other. Then you take your thumb and forefinger, and roll back and forth this overlapping, intermeshed inch or two or so of twine between them. Once all of the twine is rolled together, and intertwined, you start pulling the strings together, while holding the intermeshed portion with your thumb and forefinger before the lower half of a square knot, and it forms kind of a half square knot, half of a jumbled tangle of a knot, which is stronger than the twine, itself, if done properly. When I am out in the field, I can make this knot in about 30 seconds or less, but I have been doing it along time, maybe 20 years or so. I wish I could post pictures, as well as I can tie this knot! Of coarse, you want to make sure that you tie the rear end of the front ball to the front end of the rear ball...

How did the knot bust the knotters?